X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.219.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 5991264 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:11:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.219.52; envelope-from=guldi.jim@gmail.com Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id o6so12708618oag.25 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:11:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.78.228 with SMTP id e4mr37694931obx.77.1357135878595; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.98.41 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:11:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:11:18 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: stalls From: Jim Guldi X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0445170df4a51104d24ed1af --f46d0445170df4a51104d24ed1af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The ability to reduce risk is always in fashion with good results. I have a 235 with headed tank and I think balancing the load by regulating the weight helps with elevator comtol. I am a real believer in at least a 2 hour check out. Pilots that havent flown in a high wing loadin aircraft are over whelmed and need company for a little while to get confortable. I had the good luck to have some time in a tailwind and it is very similar in flying. Thanks for the post jim On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:15 AM, David M. Powell CRFA wrote: > ** > I have made the decision prior to purchasing to avoid stalls altogether in > my 360. After reading the stall and stall spin accident information, I > just don't think it's worth the risk. On take-off, I stay in ground effect > for the half second it takes to make it into the green after wheels up; on > landing, I approach well above stall for my flap configuration, and let the > speed bleed off only a few feet above the threshold. During normal flight, > I don't even get near a typical slow flight speed. Too many variables in a > home built airplane with no precise envelope, a header tank that is > PROBABLY where I think it is, but could be off by 30 or 40 pounds if the > gauge is stuck; possible extra wait in the tail area (water retention after > heavy rain). > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] *On Behalf Of > *Ed Gray > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:43 PM > *To:* lml@lancaironline.net > *Subject:* [LML] stalls > > Colyn, As I said, AVOID STEEP TURNS IN THE PATTERN. If you are flying > low under the hood, I hope you have a well qualified safety pilot**** > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5980 - Release Date: 12/23/12 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > -- "There are no traffic jams along the extra mile" - Roger Staubach ..jim guldi CFI --f46d0445170df4a51104d24ed1af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ability to reduce risk is always in fashion with good results. =A0I hav= e a 235 with headed tank and I think balancing the load by regulating the w= eight helps with elevator comtol.

I am a real believer i= n at least a 2 hour check out. Pilots that havent flown in a high wing load= in aircraft are over whelmed =A0and need company for a little while to get = confortable.

I had the good luck to have some time in a tailwind and= it is very similar in flying. Thanks for the post jim=A0

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:15 AM, David M. Powell CRFA <s= uperdmp@sonic.net> wrote:

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I have made the decision prior to purchasing to avoid stalls=20 altogether in my 360.=A0 After reading the stall and stall spin accident=20 information, I just don't think it's worth the risk.=A0 On take-off= , I stay=20 in ground effect for the half second it takes to make it into the green aft= er=20 wheels up; on landing, I approach well above stall for my flap configuratio= n,=20 and let the speed bleed off only a few feet above the threshold.=A0 During= =20 normal flight, I don't even get near a typical slow flight speed.=A0 To= o many=20 variables in a home built airplane with no precise envelope,=A0a header tan= k=20 that is PROBABLY where I think it is, but could be off by 30 or 40 pounds i= f the=20 gauge is stuck; possible extra wait in the tail area (water retention after= =20 heavy rain).

From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lanc= aironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Gray
Sent:=20 Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:43 PM
To:=20 lml@lancaironlin= e.net
Subject: [LML] stalls

Colyn, As I said, AVO= ID STEEP=20 TURNS IN THE PATTERN.=A0 If you are flying low under the hood, I hope you= =20 have a well qualified =A0safety pilot

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus=20 Database: 2637/5980 - Release Date: 12/23/12
Internal Virus Database is = out=20 of date.

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"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile" - Roge= r Staubach

..jim guldi CFI

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