X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:58:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTPS id 5851404 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:17:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.180; envelope-from=mdpilot982@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id e10so2510417iej.25 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.0.140 with SMTP id 12mr3151411ige.63.1351721808921; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from MikeSmithPC (c-75-72-250-131.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [75.72.250.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eo7sm4254535igc.12.2012.10.31.15.16.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael D Smith" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Performance Data Walter Engine X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:16:47 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <006501cdb7b5$6c078c50$4416a4f0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGxwS+gklJbO5/MeCH1WpUepNm3iJgL5j8Q Content-Language: en-us Not sure I would call that piston efficiency. Typical setting for me with TSIO 550 is 28.5 inches, 2370 LOP 16.5 GPH indicating 195 knots. This is a non decied L4. My indicated airspeed in icing conditions is, well, 0. I can't fly in it. Michael Smith -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr. Weinsweig Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:50 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Performance Data Walter Engine After Ronald asked about pulling back the power on a propjet, I experimented a bit. On a recent flight at fl220, I pulled the power back to burn 23-25 gph and maintained in the 160's kias and 230's ktas in my TKS equipped propjet. Almost piston efficiency. Watta Plane!!!! David Weinsweig N750DW Propjet >>> weinsweigd@tsnci.com 10/23/2012 4:59:28 PM >>> Hi Ronald, Each propjet has somewhat different performance. Mine with tks deicing generally flies between 275-300 ktas in the flight levels. fuel burn is 29-39 gph depending on altitude and power settings. as a baseline I just flew from key west nonstop to huntington, wv at fl210 due to strong headwinds and power pulled back some to conserve fuel and range. I burned 29gph with a true of around 275 ktas in 3;42 nonstop burning through my wing fuel (112 gallons) but still having 34 gallons in the belly tank when i landed. I've done this same flight previously in 3:10 but the winds sucked on Sunday. I have found that the turbine engines just burn fuel and 25 gph may be a little low to maintain any speed though I do get that low on descents. They burn close to that at idle. I'd be happy to discuss the good and bad of turbines and the conversion options/shops with you if you'd like as I have had both good and bad experiences. David Weinsweig N750DW Propjet 304-633-5221 weinsweigd@gmail.com >>> ronald@sdc.com 10/22/2012 10:13:17 AM >>> Hello guys Today I flew in a Bonanza with an Allison 250 Turbine, and it was awesome. I was very impressed by performance and the silence and no vibration. So I got curious now about having a Walter Conversion done, but when I was looking for performance data (cruise/fuel flow/ economic or power @ altitudes) I could not find anything on the web?! For example I like flying @ 17500ft, just because I can listen to the radio and do not have to chatter and can avoid bumps when I see one lol So what does a walter engine burn at this altitude? Could it fly with just 25gph and what would be its performance? Things like that... So does anyone have this ? And is there anyone I could fly with (I pay for fuel) who can show me this in his 4p? (I live in Central Florida, but I have a 4p ;) Thanks -- Ronald -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html