X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:58:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with SMTP id 5851519 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:13:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 12733 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2012 00:13:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; h=X-Originating-IP:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; s=default; d=carbinge.com; b=Qa7G5P7XmP+ts+gZ0SQUHFN05TKk8jgPJscNADcOfmGiZHh2kitE/O+tM1D6ypnx1XHHdd7fhDarya8jV2LoJb2GlHgs8g7+Cni2b0NwieJEojxTVMx/NnPG6/9j1DtThtRihFf79vkQjbuUe01Jy6GCsWJOtxQjQxZLKkjYLOU=; X-Originating-IP: [66.235.58.245] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Performance Data Walter Engine X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:13:05 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <014f01cdb7c5$aae299f0$00a7cdd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac23ZjntF8yCb4WzRhKyLmUVKI+XIAAXyAcQ Content-Language: en-us Have I missed something? Have not flown my IVP at FL220 yet, but economy cruise I've heard about could be about 28" MAP burning 16-18 GPH and around 260 kts TAS. Are those numbers realistic? John Barrett N31VP - waiting for BPE engine overhaul completion. -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr. Weinsweig Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:50 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Performance Data Walter Engine After Ronald asked about pulling back the power on a propjet, I experimented a bit. On a recent flight at fl220, I pulled the power back to burn 23-25 gph and maintained in the 160's kias and 230's ktas in my TKS equipped propjet. Almost piston efficiency. Watta Plane!!!! David Weinsweig N750DW Propjet >>> weinsweigd@tsnci.com 10/23/2012 4:59:28 PM >>> Hi Ronald, Each propjet has somewhat different performance. Mine with tks deicing generally flies between 275-300 ktas in the flight levels. fuel burn is 29-39 gph depending on altitude and power settings. as a baseline I just flew from key west nonstop to huntington, wv at fl210 due to strong headwinds and power pulled back some to conserve fuel and range. I burned 29gph with a true of around 275 ktas in 3;42 nonstop burning through my wing fuel (112 gallons) but still having 34 gallons in the belly tank when i landed. I've done this same flight previously in 3:10 but the winds sucked on Sunday. I have found that the turbine engines just burn fuel and 25 gph may be a little low to maintain any speed though I do get that low on descents. They burn close to that at idle. I'd be happy to discuss the good and bad of turbines and the conversion options/shops with you if you'd like as I have had both good and bad experiences. David Weinsweig N750DW Propjet 304-633-5221 weinsweigd@gmail.com >>> ronald@sdc.com 10/22/2012 10:13:17 AM >>> Hello guys Today I flew in a Bonanza with an Allison 250 Turbine, and it was awesome. I was very impressed by performance and the silence and no vibration. So I got curious now about having a Walter Conversion done, but when I was looking for performance data (cruise/fuel flow/ economic or power @ altitudes) I could not find anything on the web?! For example I like flying @ 17500ft, just because I can listen to the radio and do not have to chatter and can avoid bumps when I see one lol So what does a walter engine burn at this altitude? Could it fly with just 25gph and what would be its performance? Things like that... So does anyone have this ? And is there anyone I could fly with (I pay for fuel) who can show me this in his 4p? (I live in Central Florida, but I have a 4p ;) Thanks -- Ronald -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html