X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:28:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.236.15] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTPS id 5840195 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:03:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.236.15; envelope-from=n2aa@att.net Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 15:03:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.53] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 15:03:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 15:03:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 408620.75819.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EuqaHXkVM1mCtaZ1.pR7.5ziLUDpdU0BufWz_Z41PCDNgud ulcIaHSlSf0M6gnctaBuMYFy9Cdvi22Vrwp205Yacz3At8MUqUm.Ajvnpmi9 HQBACrS.t.D3WTEnvAUQvS5kHzzktZFRtP1xRDyiRx5G4qyryblEabB2Mj7L IvNUYhY.1oIAzJ1XRGDPiuTHL0bsSzUgoThPpQQ8MOZmYuF5ynu_rd5AYN_y o3u965787_YBMXLgjjCCM4u2GLRy6EUwqjgV.bRJyJcTiOMf2D0k9rhnr_kM tSNfgN4QEWsnpzgOdh228HvcRYLu7MeoyaTp_mV6s38VPdjRtvk5k3XkmaKB RDI7vk.VShhqDavKR98m_rWsi10rNUm8o4rkzC0xpT3nFmnFRp8JK_nL7BSE VH2hAX31tI5kIRvIgZ4TBj2vsb1ehVmUFjGwlVfSgPWAVdWVmf57kN0mIjiI RXwBb_OC9AW96C1MdcHpsyRsUEakH1Kg1rVqgPLKr9xi8yBoXsMmP6m.UM_E gWMU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 8CLqL3mswBARRwz_ompqyL.6irUvqzJfqQ-- Received: from Speedie (n2aa@68.6.83.194 with login) by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2012 08:03:04 -0700 PDT From: "Russell" X-Original-To: "'Ken'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot anomalies X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:02:58 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <003d01cdb1f8$a7fbb870$f7f32950$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01CDB1BD.FB9CE070" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2xUOKMsXkt6Px7ThqlzGGW0V6V4wApChfw Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CDB1BD.FB9CE070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem with your true track can be adjusted to improve the responses. By adjusting the Roll Gain "Lat Torque" or GPS Gain. These adjustments I used the correct the same problem with my Lancair Legacy which has a G900x with true track Sorcerer. Refer to your installation manuals for these adjustments. Unfortunately the Garmin G7x autopilot has no adjustments available so I cannot fix my Evolution flight characteristics. From: Ken [mailto:kkellner1@new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:02 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot anomalies I have the same situation. On my 4P, Chelton, Sorcerer, the autopilot is also rock solid in AP mode but hunts, or wing wiggles, in GPSS mode. Ken Kellner N14LK ----- Original Message ----- From: RONALD STEVENS To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot anomalies Hi Russell Interesting enough I have issues with my autopilot as well, funny thing is when I am using the Sorcerer as Autopilot it is steady as a rock, and does not have this wing wiggling (which I totally understand how frustrating and annoying this is), but when I am using the Garmin G3X as autopilot input it also is unstable, rocks, turning etc is unstable etc. So my guy feeling says that you are stumbling on a specific Garmin issue. Where it almost seems like the Garmin is doing too much with sending steering signals to the autopilot, where the sorcerer almost looks like it 'dampens' the signals (I have not other way to put it, I hope you understand?) Did you had the sorcerer before and upgraded to the G7x? == Ronald (Lancair 4p, 180 hours, Velocity 340 hours, Cirrus 1100 hours) From: Russell Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:56 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot anomalies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSsZKwgAEkk &feature=g-upl Check out the YouTube video of my Evolution autopilot anomalies. I wish Lancair would learn what customer services is from Apple! Russell ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CDB1BD.FB9CE070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The problem with your = true track can be adjusted to improve the responses. By adjusting the = Roll Gain “Lat Torque” or GPS Gain. These adjustments I used = the correct the same problem with my Lancair Legacy which has a G900x = with true track Sorcerer. Refer to your installation manuals for these = adjustments.

 

Unfortunately the Garmin = G7x autopilot has no adjustments available so I cannot fix my Evolution = flight characteristics.

 

From:= = Ken [mailto:kkellner1@new.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, = 2012 12:02 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: = [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot = anomalies

 

I have the same situation.  On my 4P, = Chelton, Sorcerer, the autopilot is also rock solid in AP mode but = hunts, or wing wiggles, in GPSS mode.

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Ken = Kellner

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F= rom: = RONALD = STEVENS

S= ent: = Monday, October 22, 2012 9:08 AM

S= ubject: = Re: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot = anomalies

 

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Hi = Russell

 

=

Interesting enough I have issues = with my autopilot as well, funny thing is when I am using the Sorcerer = as Autopilot it is steady as a rock, and does not have this wing = wiggling (which I totally understand how frustrating and annoying this = is), but when I am using the Garmin G3X as autopilot input it also is = unstable, rocks, turning etc is unstable = etc.

 

=

So my guy feeling says that you = are stumbling on a specific Garmin issue. Where it almost seems like the = Garmin is doing too much with sending steering signals to the autopilot, = where the sorcerer almost looks like it 'dampens' the signals (I have = not other way to put it, I hope you = understand?)

 

=

Did you had the sorcerer before = and upgraded to the  G7x?

 

=

=3D=3D Ronald (Lancair 4p, 180 = hours, Velocity 340 hours, Cirrus 1100 = hours)

 

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From: = Russell <n2aa@att.net>
Reply-To: = Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:56 AM
To: Lancair = Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] My Lancair Evolution G7x autopilot = anomalies

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxSsZKwgAEkk&feature=3Dg-upl

Check = out the YouTube video of my Evolution autopilot anomalies. I wish = Lancair would learn what customer services is from = Apple!

Russell

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