X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.90.76] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTPS id 5832591 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:13:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.90.76; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 12:13:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.249] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 12:13:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 12:13:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 757498.51761.bm@omp1041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52825 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2012 12:13:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1XjIQO4UdLlWqpsbKkWTVsYQAqQU0L+IuGWh9oaJzLrDmjUifXI8nQKfrCZlm5YHI8rDa4+hgbHzU2hqUtcgKmlXcOyr2nYDmDhYqxoKMQWfOgjrmjWBjMVbtlnVQ5NK3szgG69pszXaB52xtrBSc+6IzJPYjmIEBYw7IJHYu24=; X-YMail-OSG: iWMgMXEVM1mzOsJMnx3bfxrahGecRc1uAdRCTzLEtuFkqih eYVMEt.eN9i5zoiTUbauWA47mZRT1XsEfJ2k.QUagAWxk3XNzXUIQcAlixg9 o1nCcasZzs77b7BjdmnkkcWksD_W8QxInYNHgKeh4S7EKfRXQ7TrgopcCZAC AQ.hOi5lxJ2G1ZcUc1gyGQDaLx2JCitIELGek2BtUABjcYYbV5mbh.3dUJ5q 2g13qN73ge5SIv2WtHejJ16Fkee7tdcXp3WRx5x7tiLu5VMSu.7IrOr6wg_K sUtLntMBhRwyum8KqJbX2B7_Co_fLzJg3e2R1et_bcI5R5MyB9.ATA22nCMp CyKddsHjGpyKpMNrOd4s_BXV2MqzdZT_CNGEK_IQw_TxZr1H8uFZk3mqdPJF 8goCQFqoUhTjXuB9PWVf3iPLKMCvUSaqSwc2pusN2JhppKWjcOwsLKrebTlN SWIN6MW8swgvT5AVUJjN14Zqp5tLY3GeSb0jivdQIjl7qcy83lbJoN.lexWZ Bmn_dbe4d2s8pBg-- Received: from [71.208.245.216] by web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:13:20 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSB3b3VsZG4ndCBmZWVsIHF1aXRlIHRoYXQgY29uZmlkZW50IGluIHRoZSByZXBsYWNlbWVudCBkaW9kZXMuIMKgVGhlIHN0YXRvciBjdXJyZW50IGZsb3dzIGluIHNlcmllcyB0aHJvdWdoIDIgZGlvZGVzIGF0IGFueSBnaXZlbiB0aW1lIGFuZCB0aGUgY3VycmVudCBjeWNsZXMgYmV0d2VlbiB0aGUgZGlvZGVzIGFzIHRoZSBhbHRlcm5hdG9yIHJvdGF0ZXMuIMKgU28gZm9yIGEgcG9ydGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgdGltZSBhIGdpdmVuIGRpb2RlIHdpbGwgYmUgcGFzc2luZyAxMDAlIG9mIHRoZSBjdXJyZW50IC0gYnUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1350648800.18087.YahooMailNeo@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:13:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: TCM 60A alternator--diodes X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1658718958-1490011519-1350648800=:18087" ---1658718958-1490011519-1350648800=:18087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wouldn't feel quite that confident in the replacement diodes. =A0The stat= or current flows in series through 2 diodes at any given time and the curre= nt cycles between the diodes as the alternator rotates. =A0So for a portion= of the time a given diode will be passing 100% of the current - but not al= l the time since they "take turns." =A0I don't know how the diode package w= as rated, but I think the 50-amp rating is marginal for a 60-amp alternator= . =A0Given that, the alternator will rarely, if ever, be asked to deliver a= full 60 amps, and there is certainly some margin built into the diode rati= ng. =A0And the rating is a function of operating temperature, so if the alt= ernator stays cool, it's better. =A0If you could find a diode assembly rate= d at 60 amps or more it would be a good thing. =A0The 50 amp assembly will = probably work okay, though. =A0It's just not 50A X 6 =3D 300A. =A0And if yo= u routinely fly IFR at night with everything turned on and lit up....well, that's up to you.=0AGary Casey=0A=0AThe diode assembly was sourced at my l= ocal shop with a spare set of brushes for $20 total.=A0 These are 50A diode= s (50A x 6 diodes) which is a robust replacement satisfactory for even the = 100A alternator.=A0 I had to remove the B+ stud from the old diode assembly= and press it into replacement diode package.=A0 The re-assembly took about= 20 minutes and it fired up with 10A charge on low engine idle.=A0 This is = much higher charge at low idle than I can ever recall.=0A=0APaul=0A ---1658718958-1490011519-1350648800=:18087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wouldn'= t feel quite that confident in the replacement diodes.  The stator cur= rent flows in series through 2 diodes at any given time and the current cyc= les between the diodes as the alternator rotates.  So for a portion of= the time a given diode will be passing 100% of the current - but not all t= he time since they "take turns."  I don't know how the diode package w= as rated, but I think the 50-amp rating is marginal for a 60-amp alternator= .  Given that, the alternator will rarely, if ever, be asked to delive= r a full 60 amps, and there is certainly some margin built into the diode r= ating.  And the rating is a function of operating temperature, so if t= he alternator stays cool, it's better.  If you could find a diode asse= mbly rated at 60 amps or more it would be a good thing.  The 50 amp assembly will probably work okay, though.  It's just not 50A X 6 = =3D 300A.  And if you routinely fly IFR at night with everything turne= d on and lit up....well, that's up to you.
Gary Casey


The diode as= sembly was sourced at my local shop with a spare set of brushes for $20 tot= al.  These are 50A diodes (50A x 6 diodes) which is a robust replaceme= nt satisfactory for even the 100A alternator.  I had to remove the B+ = stud from the old diode assembly and press it into replacement diode packag= e.  The re-assembly took about 20 minutes and it fired up with 10A cha= rge on low engine idle.  This is much higher charge at low idle than I= can ever recall.
Paul
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