X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 03:58:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [209.80.4.34] (HELO cptexch.cptgroup.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with ESMTPS id 5635910 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 03:49:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.80.4.34; envelope-from=henry@cptgroup.com Received: from cptexch.cptgroup.com ([172.16.100.230]) by cptexch.cptgroup.com ([172.16.100.230]) with mapi; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:48:55 -0700 From: Henry Arjad X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:48:55 -0700 Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Chelton + Legacy Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Chelton + Legacy Thread-Index: Ac1Yu8fH+bM4bWKhR2ywph43ZiNtUQAIyMlA X-Original-Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C983541213CCEE419F145DA7C7DDA273A19C288640cptexchcptgro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_C983541213CCEE419F145DA7C7DDA273A19C288640cptexchcptgro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Berni; When I decided to buy my Legacy, what I looked for was the built quality an= d the engine health. I anticipated buying something with a panel the same = age as the airplane. There's been a giant leap forward with technology and= a giant leap backwards with cost. I did find me a very well build 2001 Le= gacy with a healthy engine and promptly took it to the radio shop and had d= ual Dynon 10 inch screens installed. My decision to go with Dynon was thei= r technology, cost and future upgrades. Their screens are very bright even= in direct sun light, their software is user friendly and they are experime= ntal which means more and faster free upgrades, since no FAA certification = is required. The complete system including dual 10 inch screens with batte= ry backups, dual ADHARs, transponder with TIS, auto pilot with CWS, synthet= ic vision, GPS, hub, software and all other required cabling was $14,000. = Installation was $11,000. I anticipate getting minimum of $10,000 from sel= ling of the Sorcerer auto pilot and other old gages, thus having a $15,000 = investment in my panel. As a side benefit I gained 26 lbs of useful load. = I decided to keep my old Apollo GPS and the SL30 for now and when they fai= l, I'll upgrade to a Garmin. The panel is designed to accommodate small st= eam gauges should that be in its future. I now have 10 hours behind the panel and love it. It is full of features a= nd easy to use. My advice would be to find the right platform first. Upgr= ading the panel has become affordable. Henry Arjad, KSNA Legacy N22YY 45 hours Henry@cptgroup.com From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art = Jensen Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:33 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Chelton + Legacy Berni, I have two Chelton screens and a Garmin 430W in my Legacy. I like the Chel= tons much better than the Garmin 430W. While very disappointed with the ex= pected future support from Chelton, I expect there should be no major probl= ems with that support for the next ten years or so. Having said that, I ex= pect I will have to move on to LSA by then and will be selling my Legacy an= d therefore do not feel a need to spend extra money to build a new panel. = I will just continue to enjoy the Legacy and the Cheltons as they are until= then. Given your statement of having owned almost every flying model except the L= egacy, how much time will pass before you again sell the Legacy and move on= to something else? I expect that Cheltons in a Legacy will serve you just= fine until you again move on to another plane. Art ________________________________ From: Berni Breen > To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 7:02 AM Subject: [LML] Chelton + Legacy I am a ten year Lancair pilot having owned almost every flying model except= a Legacy (bought a Legacy kit from Lancair in 2000 but never flew it) but = I am seriously considering the purchase of a flying Legacy. There are some= very, very nice airplanes out there but I have a concern on the avionics s= ide of things. Many of these airplanes have Cheltons installed. I have ne= ver flown with Cheltons but have heard very good things about them. My con= cern is that they are what they are today with no chance of a path to the f= uture. There are a couple of Legacy airplanes for sale that I would like to= pursue but the Chelton thing tells me not to go there. I would appreciate= comments regarding this dilemma. Should I feel this way? I would also appreciate any suggestions about what to look for and to look = out for as I seek out a Legacy to buy. Berni --_000_C983541213CCEE419F145DA7C7DDA273A19C288640cptexchcptgro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Berni;

 

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When I decided to buy my Legacy, what I looked = for was the built quality and the engine health.  I anticipated buying= something with a panel the same age as the airplane.  There’s b= een a giant leap forward with technology and a giant leap backwards with co= st.  I did find me a very well build 2001 Legacy with a healthy engine= and promptly took it to the radio shop and had dual Dynon 10 inch screens = installed.  My decision to go with Dynon was their technology, cost an= d future upgrades.  Their screens are very bright even in direct sun l= ight, their software is user friendly and they are experimental which means= more and faster free upgrades, since no FAA certification is required.&nbs= p; The complete system including dual 10 inch screens with battery backups,= dual ADHARs, transponder with TIS, auto pilot with CWS, synthetic vision, = GPS, hub, software and all other required cabling was $14,000.  Instal= lation was $11,000.  I anticipate getting minimum of $10,000 from sell= ing of the Sorcerer auto pilot and other old gages, thus having a $15,000 i= nvestment in my panel.  As a side benefit I gained 26 lbs of useful lo= ad.  I decided to keep my old Apollo GPS and the SL30 for now and when= they fail, I’ll upgrade to a Garmin.  The panel is designed to = accommodate small steam gauges should that be in its future. 

 

I now have 10 hours behind the panel and love it.&nb= sp; It is full of features and easy to use.  My advice would be to fin= d the right platform first.  Upgrading the panel has become affordable= . 

 =

 

Henry Arjad, KSNA<= /span><= o:p>

Legacy N22YY 45 hours

= Henry@cptgroup.com

 

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [= mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art Jensen
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:33 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
S= ubject: [LML] Re: Chelton + Legacy

 

Berni,<= /p>

 

I have two Chelton= screens and a Garmin 430W in my Legacy.  I like the Cheltons much bet= ter than the Garmin 430W.  While very disappointed with the expected f= uture support from Chelton, I expect there should be no major problems with= that support for the next ten years or so.  Having said that, I expec= t I will have to move on to LSA by then and will be selling my Legacy and t= herefore do not feel a need to spend extra money to build a new panel. = ; I will just continue to enjoy the Legacy and the Cheltons as they are unt= il then.

 

Given your statement of having owned almost every flying model excep= t the Legacy, how much time will pass before you again sell the Legacy and = move on to something else?  I expect that Cheltons in a Legacy will se= rve you just fine until you again move on to another plane.

 

Art

 

From: Berni Breen <= ;bbreen@cableone.net>
T= o: lml@lancaironline.net <= br>Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 7:02 AM
Subject: [LML] Chelt= on + Legacy

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I am a ten year Lancai= r pilot having owned almost every flying model except a Legacy (bought a Le= gacy kit from Lancair in 2000 but never flew it) but I am seriously conside= ring the purchase of a flying Legacy.  There are some very, very nice = airplanes out there but I have a concern on the avionics side of things. &n= bsp;Many of these airplanes have Cheltons installed.  I have never flo= wn with Cheltons but have heard very good things about them.  My conce= rn is that they are what they are today with no chance of a path to the fut= ure. There are a couple of Legacy airplanes for sale that I would like to p= ursue but the Chelton thing tells me not to go there.  I would appreci= ate comments regarding this dilemma.  Should I feel this way?

 

I would also app= reciate any suggestions about what to look for and to look out for as I see= k out a Legacy to buy.

 

Berni

 

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