X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:41:45 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with ESMTP id 5628353 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:02:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.78.142; envelope-from=cavittp@aol.com Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5RH1m4M024666 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:01:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (ip68-8-30-69.sd.sd.cox.net [68.8.30.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9C4F8E000198 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LN2 queries References: From: CavittP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F2EE9342-9B8C-4E16-BA16-018E9DA8EB68 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:01:46 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:499404672:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33864feb3c7b60b6 X-AOL-IP: 68.8.30.69 --Apple-Mail-F2EE9342-9B8C-4E16-BA16-018E9DA8EB68 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 When we're having low humidity I always use a damp rag around filler opening= and make certain nozzle is touching the rag before beginning to pump fuel. = =20 Pete Cavitt - N320PL +1-619-701-0784 Cell www.petecavitt.com On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:55, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > Ron, > =20 > Randy is correct. > =20 > Grayhawk > =20 > PS I stand back at each refueling after the line person attaches his groun= d to the nose gear or exhaust. That takes care of grounding to the electric= al system which is only connected to electrical things. I worry more about t= he induced static indication from the AM radio playing in the hangar while I= am waxing the fuel carrying wings. Just don't brush your dog when the rela= tive humidity is below 20% while sticking your free finger in the wing tank.= > =20 > In a message dated 6/27/2012 8:51:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, randylsna= rr@yahoo.com writes: > Ron, it is pointless to try and ground a fiberglass airplane. I would bet 9= 9 percent of the non carbon lancairs are flying with no grounding. I have ne= ver heard of anyone having a problem.. > Keep it light and leave it off.. > Randy Snarr >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:27 AM, "Stevens Family" w= rote: >=20 >> Another couple of queries for those who have built the L320/360 aircraft.= >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> 1. I notice that the instructions make no mention of earthing the f= uel filler on the header tank. On my kit, which I purchased partly built wit= h the wings completed, I notice that all the metal parts of the wing tanks a= re electrically bonded, including the fuel filler port inserts. However in t= he instructions for building the header tank, there is no mention of bonding= the filler port. It would be quite simple to do with some copper bonding st= rap glassed into the inside of the forward deck, and passing through the flo= x bond where the tank is bonded to the forward deck. What has everyone else d= one? >>=20 >> 2. I am researching the firewall forward part of the manual, and no= tice they talk about using 2 layers of fibrefax behind the stainless steel f= ire shield which covers the firewall, all bonded into place with =E2=80=9C h= igh temperature silicone=E2=80=9D. As this section of my construction manual= is dated 1994, I am wondering whether this is still the recommended process= , or have fibrefax and high temperature silicone been superceded by som= ething more up to date. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I appreciate any suggestions offered. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Rob Stevens >>=20 >> Perth, >>=20 >> Western Australia. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 > =3D --Apple-Mail-F2EE9342-9B8C-4E16-BA16-018E9DA8EB68 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
When we're having low humi= dity I always use a damp rag around filler opening and make certain nozzle i= s touching the rag before beginning to pump fuel.  

Pete Cavitt -= N320PL
+1-619-701-0784 Cell

On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:55, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

<= div>
Ron,
 
Randy is correct.
 
Grayhawk
 
PS I stand back at each refueling after the line person attaches his gr= ound=20 to the nose gear or exhaust.  That takes care of grounding to the=20 electrical system which is only connected to electrical things.  I worr= y=20 more about the induced static indication from the AM radio playing in t= he=20 hangar while I am waxing the fuel carrying wings.  Just don't brush you= r=20 dog when the relative humidity is below 20% while sticking your free fi= nger=20 in the wing tank.
 
In a message dated 6/27/2012 8:51:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 randylsnarr@yahoo.com writes:
Ron, it is pointless to try and ground a fiberglass airplane. I would= bet=20 99 percent of the non carbon lancairs are flying with no grounding. I have= =20 never heard of anyone having a problem..
Keep it light and leave it=20 off..
Randy Snarr

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:27 AM, "Stevens Family" <steve= ns5@swiftdsl.com.au>=20 wrote:

Another couple of queries for those who have buil= t the=20 L320/360 aircraft.

 

1.      =20 I notice that the instructions make no mention of earthing= the=20 fuel filler on the header tank. On my kit, which I purchased partly buil= t=20 with the wings completed, I notice that all the metal parts of the wing=20= tanks are electrically bonded, including the fuel filler port inserts.=20= However in the instructions for building the header tank, there is no=20= mention of bonding the filler port. It would be quite simple to do with s= ome=20 copper bonding strap glassed into the inside of the forward deck, and=20= passing through the flox bond where the tank is bonded to the forward de= ck.=20 What has everyone else done?

2.      =20 I am researching the firewall forward part of the manual, a= nd=20 notice they talk about using 2 layers of fibrefax behind the stainless s= teel=20 fire shield which covers the firewall, all bonded into place with =E2=80= =9C high=20 temperature silicone=E2=80=9D. As this section of my construction manual= is dated=20 1994, I am wondering whether this is still the recommended process, or h= ave=20 fibrefax and high temperature silicone been superceded by something more= up=20 to date.

 

I appreciate any suggestions offered.<= /p>

 

Regards,

 

Rob Stevens

Perth,

Western Australia.

 

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