X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from a2s34.a2hosting.com ([216.119.134.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5611620 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:42:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.119.134.2; envelope-from=lorn@dynacomm.us Received: from c-68-42-83-236.hsd1.mi.comcast.net ([68.42.83.236]:56769 helo=[192.168.1.9]) by a2s34.a2hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ShflP-001v07-Nr for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:41:30 -0400 From: Lorn H Olsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New TSIO 550-X break in - need suggestions X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:41:24 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <37E75DF4-92AC-4939-A408-1058936EED44@dynacomm.us> X-Original-To: Lancair List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s34.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dynacomm.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Bob, It sounds like you have either 1 of 2 problems. 1) Your engine is running hot because you are breaking it in. or 2) Your timing is to far advanced. Advanced timing causes CHT's to be = hot and EGT's to run cool. Retarded timing causes CHT's to be cool and = EGT's to be hot. I found this out from experience in my newly installed O-320. CHT's were = up to 460=B0F in the climb. I found that the left mag had been set to = 50=B0 BTDC rather than the 25=B0 BTDC that it should have been set at. If the engine doesn't run cooler after break in, check the mag timing. = Check it anyway. Lorn > From: Bob Rickard > Date: June 20, 2012 7:15:53 PM EDT >=20 > IV-P non turbine Fellow Pilots: >=20 > I recently received a rebuilt TSIO-550 from Barrett Precision Aircraft = in Tulsa. Was quoted 9 weeks to overhaul, took 5 1/2 months (but that = is another story). The good news is that the motor is back in the = airplane, and looks and runs fantastic. My problem is, its running hot = inside my airplane. The bottom line is - I am looking for suggestions = on how to solve the problem described below- I have about 600 hours in = my airplane on the previous engine, have taken the GAMI course, and run = LOP cross-country almost exclusively. >=20 > Motor installed and test run. Every effort to try and install exactly = like it left - only exception is spark plug wires installed below the = air tubes (they were on top before - I don't know why the mechanic put = them underneath). No problems with Cowl off. =20 > First flight - one pattern only - Max MAP was set too low, low fuel = flow - fixed. > Next flight - 10 minutes - Cylinders 5 and 6 temps run away hot at = 38.5 MAP and 45gph. Must retard throttle to less than 25gph (25ish MAP) = to keep under control. > Third flight - after checking baffling for hours and scratching head = - same deal. Fly for 1 hour full rich at low power settings. Motor = very smooth and happy at low settings, but as soon as throttle pushed = in, cyl's 5 and 6 climb at about 1 degree per second - power always = retarded not to exceed 390 and cool down in the 350-360 range before = trying to push up power again. > Fourth flight - today - a 2.3. Takeoff WOT and full rich. Can't get = above 3000' agl before having to pull power for cal 5 and 6. Pull power = to 25gph/25 MAP/Full rich and slowly climb to 10.5k MSL. Fly there for = a while, cylinders all look great in the 340-350 range. After an hour, = try full power climb, have to stop within 1500' of climb. So then I = leveled out, and set my typical speed cruise LOP mode to try something = different - 34MAP, 2500 RPM, 18-19 gph. Motor is very happy. All EGT's = normal (actually less than previous engine by almost 100 deg), CHT's all = between 340-365. I climb with this setting to 16.5 and cruise for = another hour, no problem. Return to base, set full rich/2700 rpm, and = land normally. At retarded power settings in the pattern, motor stays = cool and happy. >=20 > So what to look at? New motor mounts make the engine sit noticeably = lower in the cowl, and we are checking the rear baffling to make sure = there is a good seal, but would that affect the front 2 cylinders (5 and = 6)? Every other indication (including the other 4 cylinder temps) are = totally normal. Any other suggestions out there to look for? =20 >=20 > Appreciate your experience >=20 > Bob Rickard -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan