X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.4.198] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5532786 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 May 2012 10:11:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=167.206.4.198; envelope-from=Adam@ValidationPartners.com Received: from VpiWorkstation1 (ool-4351a46d.dyn.optonline.net [67.81.164.109]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0M3V00LFQ3E7V120@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 May 2012 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:12:23 -0400 From: Adam Molny Subject: RE: Instrument Panel comments/advice requested In-reply-to: X-Original-To: 'Doug' , lml@lancaironline.net X-Original-Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WkK9J+f1NSawWxLk8mzGxA)" Thread-index: Ac0vdFV2yGbmaePQQaiDzgkTlef0kgABCpoQ References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_WkK9J+f1NSawWxLk8mzGxA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Doug - I'm also installing a 10" Dynon Skyview this weekend to replace my Blue Mountain EFIS/One. I did extensive research and narrowed the choices to Dynon and the new Grand Rapids HRx. Grand Rapids appears to have the lead on integration with external devices. I went with Dynon because the Skyview has been around for 2 years now so the teething pains are out of the way, but it's still new enough to be supported for many years to come (I hope). < Engine instruments will be displayed on an E.I. MVP-50> Why the separate system? The Skyview can perform all your engine monitoring functions. It can also do fuel calculations based on your flight plan (i.e fuel remaining at destination). < I need a second Comm.> Are you sure? The SL30 has monitoring capability so you can listen to ATIS on the standby frequency while still talking to ATC on the active frequency. The monitored frequency gets muted automatically whenever there's chatter on the active frequency. Dynon doesn't currently support remote tuning of the SL30, but it's on their 'to-do' list. < . and a Garmin Audio Panel. > The audio panel is there to switch multiple audio sources between the headsets and speaker. Very few of us build an external speaker into our planes so there's an entire row of buttons that goes unused. With only two audio sources (the SL30 plus Skyview's audio alerts) having a gadget that can switch between multiple comms, navs, DME, ADF, etc. is overkill. I have a 4-place intercom in my Legacy. That gives me three extra audio inputs - the two unused rear passenger connections and the music input. That's more than enough for my needs. <.I plan to do some very limited IFR flying.> I looked into this as well. The Skyview GPS will give you excellent situational awareness, and the SL30 will allow you to do ILS and VOR approaches. But you won't be able to do any GPS approaches unless you have approach-certified GPS with the appropriate navigation database installed. As of this writing that basically means the GNS430 (which is being discontinued) or the newer GTN650. The new Grand Rapids HRx will eventually have GPS approaches built in, with GPS position being provided by their WAAS receiver. No Garmin needed, just a database subscription. However, it's not available yet. Since Dynon's GPS also supports WAAS I'm hoping they'll come out with something similar at some point. Food for thought, Adam Molny Legacy #151, 16.6 hours and counting --Boundary_(ID_WkK9J+f1NSawWxLk8mzGxA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Doug –

 

I’m also installing a 10” Dynon Skyview this weekend to replace my Blue Mountain EFIS/One. I did extensive research and narrowed the choices to Dynon and the new Grand Rapids HRx. Grand Rapids appears to have the lead on integration with external devices. I went with Dynon because the Skyview has been around for 2 years now so the teething pains are out of the way, but it’s still new enough to be supported for many years to come (I hope).

 

< Engine instruments will be displayed on an E.I. MVP-50>

Why the separate system? The Skyview can perform all your engine monitoring functions. It can also do fuel calculations based on your flight plan (i.e fuel remaining at destination).

 

< I need a second Comm…>

Are you sure? The SL30 has monitoring capability so you can listen to ATIS on the standby frequency while still talking to ATC on the active frequency. The monitored frequency gets muted automatically whenever there’s chatter on the active frequency. Dynon doesn’t currently support remote tuning of the SL30, but it’s on their ‘to-do’ list.

 

< … and a Garmin Audio Panel… >

The audio panel is there to switch multiple audio sources between the headsets and speaker. Very few of us build an external speaker into our planes so there’s an entire row of buttons that goes unused. With only two audio sources (the SL30 plus Skyview’s audio alerts) having a gadget that can switch between multiple comms, navs, DME, ADF, etc. is overkill. I have a 4-place intercom in my Legacy. That gives me three extra audio inputs – the two unused rear passenger connections and the music input. That’s more than enough for my needs.

 

<…I plan to do some very limited IFR flying.>

I looked into this as well. The Skyview GPS will give you excellent situational awareness, and the SL30 will allow you to do ILS and VOR approaches. But you won’t be able to do any GPS approaches unless you have approach-certified GPS with the appropriate navigation database installed. As of this writing that basically means the GNS430 (which is being discontinued) or the newer GTN650. The new Grand Rapids HRx will eventually have GPS approaches built in, with GPS position being provided by their WAAS receiver. No Garmin needed, just a database subscription. However, it’s not available yet. Since Dynon’s GPS also supports WAAS I’m hoping they’ll come out with something similar at some point.

 

Food for thought,

Adam Molny

Legacy #151, 16.6 hours and counting

 

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