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Subject: Re: [LML] Necessity of A/C in IV-P? IV-P still beats EA50
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why dont you try an evo=0Ai get 300+ to 310 at 28k usually run 28 gph and g=
oes 1500 miles=0Acheck flightaware for mine redmond dallas non stop with 15=
 kts tailwind=0Alanded with 40 gallons=A0=0Athe final a/c after the guys at=
 lancair diddled with it and placed an additional air cooler in front of th=
e cowling works perfectly i even have a fresh air modulator now=0Abeats the=
 hell of the eclipse and the new garmin a/p works as magic instead of the=
=A0=0A*%#* sorcerer=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "cwfm=
d@yahoo.com" <cwfmd@yahoo.com>=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Friday,=
 May 4, 2012 9:25 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Necessity of A/C in IV-P? IV-P still =
beats EA50=0A =0A=0AI tried flying without AC in the summer in Houston. You=
 can dump the door seal and get some relief above say 6000 feet, but I woul=
dn't do it with passengers, ears etc. I also tried hot wx army vests with c=
ooling. Weird feeling too cold over your chest and your head's too hot.... =
The desert cooler worked pretty good but iced up the windows... cool but IM=
C=0A=A0After about 3 years of this, we installed AC.=0A=A0We just made a de=
al on an early "vintage" Eclipse. We are using it in an Aero Engineering co=
urse at Rice U. RVSM pending and Engine AD restrict us to FL280 and I get 2=
03 KEAS at 530 pph ~80gph=0AIV-P 205 KIAS at FL240 and 75% 25 gph, So far E=
clipse Air Conditioning is not very good- same problem as Lancair with heat=
 loading of cabin with bleed air.=0A=A0We're considering a West coast trip =
next week from Houston via Colorado/Wyoming to COE,=0A Idaho, then SEA, RDM=
 Oregon, SJC/MRY CA, and back to TX. If you are headed along such a route a=
nd want to share a VLJ, collect some Performance data, and stick time, for =
some gas money, give me a holler.=0ABill Miller, =0AUSN-TPS IP CFI ATP=0AIV=
-P 440 hrs, IV-p 55 hrs, EA50 20 hrs (+100hrs pre-Ch 11)
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bo=
okman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>why dont=
 you try an evo</span></div><div><span>i get 300+ to 310 at 28k usually run=
 28 gph and goes 1500 miles</span></div><div><span>check flightaware for mi=
ne redmond dallas non stop with 15 kts tailwind</span></div><div><span>land=
ed with 40 gallons&nbsp;</span></div><div><span>the final a/c after the guy=
s at lancair diddled with it and placed an additional air cooler in front o=
f the cowling works perfectly i even have a fresh air modulator now</span><=
/div><div><span>beats the hell of the eclipse and the new garmin a/p works =
as magic instead of the&nbsp;</span></div><div><span>*%#* sorcerer</span></=
div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'bookman o=
ld style', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font=
-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir=3D"ltr">
 <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight:bold;">From:</span></b> "cwfmd@yahoo.com" &lt;cwfmd@yahoo.com&gt;<br>=
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lml@lancaironline.net=
 <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 4,=
 2012 9:25 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>=
 [LML] Necessity of A/C in IV-P? IV-P still beats EA50<br> </font> </div> <=
br>=0A<div id=3D"yiv1637967683"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" =
border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit;">I tried =
flying without AC in the summer in Houston. You can dump the door seal and =
get some relief above say 6000 feet, but I wouldn't do it with passengers, =
ears etc. I also tried hot wx army vests with cooling. Weird feeling too co=
ld over your chest and your head's too hot.... The desert cooler worked pre=
tty good but iced up the windows... cool but IMC<br>&nbsp;After about 3 yea=
rs of this, we installed AC.<br>&nbsp;We just made a deal on an early "vint=
age" Eclipse. We are using it in an Aero Engineering course at Rice U. RVSM=
 pending and Engine AD restrict us to FL280 and I get 203 KEAS at 530 pph ~=
80gph<br>IV-P 205 KIAS at FL240 and 75% 25 gph, So far Eclipse Air Conditio=
ning is not very good- same problem as Lancair with heat loading of cabin w=
ith bleed air.<br>&nbsp;We're considering a West coast trip next week from =
Houston via
 Colorado/Wyoming to COE,=0A Idaho, then SEA, RDM Oregon, SJC/MRY CA, and b=
ack to TX. If you are headed along such a route and want to share a VLJ, co=
llect some Performance data, and stick time, for some gas money, give me a =
holler.<br>Bill Miller, <br>USN-TPS IP CFI ATP<br>IV-P 440 hrs, IV-p 55 hrs=
, EA50 20 hrs (+100hrs pre-Ch 11)<br></td></tr></tbody></table></div><br><b=
r> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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