X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:55:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com ([69.89.21.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5461518 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:26:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.89.21.8; envelope-from=danny@n107sd.com Received: (qmail 11836 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2012 18:25:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host295.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.95) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 18:25:23 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.n107sd.com) by host295.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SDK2F-0007Cj-Mp for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:25:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:25:23 -0600 From: Danny X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] LNC2 gear diagnosis Organization: N107SD, Inc. In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Message-ID: <9cfbff3417eb87393bd0488a8f4619fc@n107sd.com> X-Sender: danny@n107sd.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.6 X-Identified-User: {3234:host295.hostmonster.com:wunderwe:n107sd.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with danny@n107sd.com} I've asked myself the same questions. First the leak, then I'll see what the pressure switch is doing. Danny LNC2-360, 550 hours N 38° 43' 25.7" W 77° 30' 38.6" On 29.03.2012 11:46, Jim Nordin wrote: > Wouldn’t you want to look at the pressure switches? If the pump > pressure never exceeds 950 pounds, the pump should never quit > running. > No? Or can the switch shut off the power to the pump at 950 pounds? > If > the pump quits prior to ±1200 pounds, something is afoul in the > switches or the pump thermally shutdown. > Jim > > ------------------------- > > FROM: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] ON BEHALF > OF > Danny > SENT: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:03 AM > TO: lml@lancaironline.net > SUBJECT: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis > > Nope, I took the NW actuator out of the system and installed a gauge > on that pressure line to check.  I also played with the dump valve > today to see if a slight movement of the handle made a difference … > it did.  This weekend I’ll cap it and see what kind of pressure I > get but my guess is that’s the problem. > > Danny > > LNC2-360, 550 hours > > N 38° 43' 25.7" > > W 77° 30' 38.6" > > FROM: Sky2high@aol.com [mailto:Sky2high@aol.com] > SENT: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06 AM > TO: lml@lancaironline.net > SUBJECT: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis > > Danny, > > From what you reported it would seem that the nose gear actuator is > the real problem. How about the door actuators? One possible analysis > is that you don't see the 1200 psi because the leak is greater at the > higher pressure and then slows a bit as the pressure goes down or the > actuator has its worse leak at full retraction and less when the > piston is not at the full retraction position... > > Scott Krueger > > In a message dated 3/27/2012 10:32:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > danny@n107sd.com [1] writes: > >> If any of you have a suggestion, I’d appreciate your input. >> >> On my last flight home, with no early signs of failure, my gear pump >> was tripping on about every 2 seconds to maintain pressure.  I >> figured I had a leaky actuator and would have to rebuild it to >> resolve this; no big deal.  I found one leaking and figured where >> there is one, there may be more.  So, I’m rebuilding all of >> them.  But, before doing so, I put a gauge on the high pressure >> side of the pump to see if I had internal leaks there too.  What I >> found was that my pump will only pressurize to about 950 psi (should >> be ~1200 psi) and then it bleeds down slowly.  I tried to adjust >> the pressure switch but it made very little difference.  To verify >> the bleeding, I isolated all actuators out of the system except the >> nose wheel.  I put the gauge on the high pressure side of the NW >> actuator line, selected gear up to pressurize the system, and then >> quickly crawled under the plane to look at the gauge.  It was >> bleeding down so fast that by the time I got down there to look at >> it (~2 sec.), it had already lost about 200 psi and then bled down >> the rest of the way in about 7 more seconds.  So, and here’s the >> question, do I have a faulty gear dump valve, a leaky pump, or both? >> >> >> Danny >> >> LNC2-360, ~550 hours >> >> N 38° 43' 25.7" >> >> W 77° 30' 38.6" > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:danny@n107sd.com -- Danny LNC2-360, 550 hours