Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #61504
From: Danny <danny@n107sd.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:55:32 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
I agree Tom.  Those are NIBCO ball valves, p/n T-560-CS-R-25-LL rated to 2000 psi.  The earlier valves were only 600 psi, which is probably why they had failures.  I'm looking around at local vendors to see if I can get one here before placing my order with Lancair.

Danny
LNC2-360, 550 hours
N 38° 43' 25.7"
W 77° 30' 38.6"

On 29.03.2012 11:46, N20087 wrote:
Danny

If you have to change the valve I suggest replacing it with a three
way type that will dump to the pump reservoir. This will eliminate a
potential failure mode in the pump. You can get the valve from
Lancair. It is used on the legacy and of much better quality than the
earlier 360 valves

Tom

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:02 AM, "Danny"  wrote:

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Nope, I took the NW actuator out of the system and installed a gauge
on that pressure line to check. I also played with the dump valve
today to see if a slight movement of the handle made a difference
… it did. This weekend I’ll cap it and see what kind of pressure
I get but my guess is that’s the problem.

Danny

LNC2-360, 550 hours

N 38° 43' 25.7"

W 77° 30' 38.6"

FROM: Sky2high@aol.com [1] [mailto:Sky2high@aol.com]
SENT: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06 AM
TO: lml@lancaironline.net [2]
SUBJECT: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis

Danny,

From what you reported it would seem that the nose gear actuator is
the real problem. How about the door actuators? One possible
analysis is that you don't see the 1200 psi because the leak is
greater at the higher pressure and then slows a bit as the pressure
goes down or the actuator has its worse leak at full retraction and
less when the piston is not at the full retraction position...

Scott Krueger

In a message dated 3/27/2012 10:32:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
danny@n107sd.com [3] writes:

If any of you have a suggestion, I’d appreciate your input.

On my last flight home, with no early signs of failure, my gear
pump was tripping on about every 2 seconds to maintain pressure. I
figured I had a leaky actuator and would have to rebuild it to
resolve this; no big deal. I found one leaking and figured where
there is one, there may be more. So, I’m rebuilding all of them.
But, before doing so, I put a gauge on the high pressure side of
the pump to see if I had internal leaks there too. What I found
was that my pump will only pressurize to about 950 psi (should be
~1200 psi) and then it bleeds down slowly. I tried to adjust the
pressure switch but it made very little difference. To verify the
bleeding, I isolated all actuators out of the system except the
nose wheel. I put the gauge on the high pressure side of the NW
actuator line, selected gear up to pressurize the system, and then
quickly crawled under the plane to look at the gauge. It was
bleeding down so fast that by the time I got down there to look at
it (~2 sec.), it had already lost about 200 psi and then bled down
the rest of the way in about 7 more seconds. So, and here’s the
question, do I have a faulty gear dump valve, a leaky pump, or
both?

Danny

LNC2-360, ~550 hours

N 38° 43' 25.7"

W 77° 30' 38.6"


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Danny
LNC2-360, 550 hours
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