X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:55:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.55.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5461552 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:48:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.222.55.9; envelope-from=danny@n107sd.com Received: (qmail 26485 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2012 18:48:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host295.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.95) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 18:48:06 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=www.n107sd.com) by host295.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SDKOE-0007p6-C9 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:48:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:48:06 -0600 From: Danny X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis Organization: N107SD, Inc. In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Message-ID: <13560dc9f4339b98b6b793d02b5fbc0c@n107sd.com> X-Sender: danny@n107sd.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.6 X-Identified-User: {3234:host295.hostmonster.com:wunderwe:n107sd.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with danny@n107sd.com} Well, after making a few calls I found this ball valve is a special order item with my local companies (meaning higher cost). Michelle (@ Lancair) has one on the shelf and I still have a small credit on my account with them so it's on the way. Sure hope this solve my problem. Danny LNC2-360, 550 hours N 38° 43' 25.7" W 77° 30' 38.6" On 29.03.2012 11:46, N20087 wrote: > Danny > > If you have to change the valve I suggest replacing it with a three > way type that will dump to the pump reservoir. This will eliminate a > potential failure mode in the pump. You can get the valve from > Lancair. It is used on the legacy and of much better quality than the > earlier 360 valves > > Tom > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:02 AM, "Danny" wrote: > >> * >> >> Nope, I took the NW actuator out of the system and installed a gauge >> on that pressure line to check. I also played with the dump valve >> today to see if a slight movement of the handle made a difference >> … it did. This weekend I’ll cap it and see what kind of pressure >> I get but my guess is that’s the problem. >> >> Danny >> >> LNC2-360, 550 hours >> >> N 38° 43' 25.7" >> >> W 77° 30' 38.6" >> >> FROM: Sky2high@aol.com [1] [mailto:Sky2high@aol.com] >> SENT: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06 AM >> TO: lml@lancaironline.net [2] >> SUBJECT: [LML] Re: LNC2 gear diagnosis >> >> Danny, >> >> From what you reported it would seem that the nose gear actuator is >> the real problem. How about the door actuators? One possible >> analysis is that you don't see the 1200 psi because the leak is >> greater at the higher pressure and then slows a bit as the pressure >> goes down or the actuator has its worse leak at full retraction and >> less when the piston is not at the full retraction position... >> >> Scott Krueger >> >> In a message dated 3/27/2012 10:32:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> danny@n107sd.com [3] writes: >> >>> If any of you have a suggestion, I’d appreciate your input. >>> >>> On my last flight home, with no early signs of failure, my gear >>> pump was tripping on about every 2 seconds to maintain pressure. I >>> figured I had a leaky actuator and would have to rebuild it to >>> resolve this; no big deal. I found one leaking and figured where >>> there is one, there may be more. So, I’m rebuilding all of them. >>> But, before doing so, I put a gauge on the high pressure side of >>> the pump to see if I had internal leaks there too. What I found >>> was that my pump will only pressurize to about 950 psi (should be >>> ~1200 psi) and then it bleeds down slowly. I tried to adjust the >>> pressure switch but it made very little difference. To verify the >>> bleeding, I isolated all actuators out of the system except the >>> nose wheel. I put the gauge on the high pressure side of the NW >>> actuator line, selected gear up to pressurize the system, and then >>> quickly crawled under the plane to look at the gauge. It was >>> bleeding down so fast that by the time I got down there to look at >>> it (~2 sec.), it had already lost about 200 psi and then bled down >>> the rest of the way in about 7 more seconds. So, and here’s the >>> question, do I have a faulty gear dump valve, a leaky pump, or >>> both? >>> >>> Danny >>> >>> LNC2-360, ~550 hours >>> >>> N 38° 43' 25.7" >>> >>> W 77° 30' 38.6" > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:Sky2high@aol.com > [2] mailto:lml@lancaironline.net > [3] mailto:danny@n107sd.com > [4] mailto:danny@n107sd.com -- Danny LNC2-360, 550 hours