X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:01:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5429293 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:46:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 23257 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2012 18:45:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; h=X-Originating-IP:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; s=default; d=carbinge.com; b=c+7b5x2m3qOcQd2us/wU8pjVRfcDnaYdwRCBKLC9i0kh3x5vBEzqOHWntzBnvU4IEJcDFHRjB++LM7+dUivn59fxsRnIBSyM+nD/GiShVqfg2fEFCfSXhQtKEgMqsmln0Jk5A7ABi8K9xIeM28CTqqtw9PWqIQWeX4ivn76rHEw=; X-Originating-IP: [24.143.114.61] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Looking for Legacy stick time in the Northeast X-Original-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:45:26 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <052901ccfb00$22269f30$6673dd90$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_052A_01CCFABD.14035F30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acz69e73rvNzYxIESOaWM4fsscCN7QACPQUw Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_052A_01CCFABD.14035F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True =E2=80=93 Adam and all of us should get initial and recurrent = training from an instructor (not necessarily a test pilot) to insure we = are competent and current in our respective a/c. That instructor needs = to be one who is completely familiar with the a/c involved. LOBO is an = excellent source of such folks. However, that being said, the more = copilot time you can amass, especially if you=E2=80=99re doing the = flying , prior to or concurrent with that initial flight, the more you = will likely get out of that initial =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D training. = =20 =20 I suspect you=E2=80=99re saying that Adam and others should not = substitute flying around with a friend in his Legacy for serious = syllabus training and for checkout or for insurance requirements. I = would agree with that. =20 Additionally, unless the owner has LOTS of hours in type, and = familiarity with dealing with any and all emergencies, he would be very = smart to hire a test pilot for the first flight =E2=80=93 maybe the = first few hours of flight. =20 =20 Regards, John Barrett =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Art Jensen Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 9:32 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Looking for Legacy stick time in the Northeast =20 Do yourself a favor and hire a real test pilot. If you must you can = then have the test pilot check you out in your plane so you can fly off = the time. =20 Art Jensen =20 _____ =20 From: Adam Molny To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 6:21 AM Subject: [LML] Looking for Legacy stick time in the Northeast =20 I=E2=80=99m very close to flying my Legacy #151 =E2=80=93 today was my = first high-speed taxi test. Here=E2=80=99s a video of my first engine = run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7UWNjakyY1Y =20 I received 6.5 hours of dual last October at the LOBO fly-in in Branson. = It=E2=80=99s been four months so I=E2=80=99d like to brush up before my = first flight. Is there anyone in the area who wouldn=E2=80=99t mind = taking me up for an hour or so? I=E2=80=99d like to do some takeoffs, = slow flight, pattern work, and approaches to landing. I=E2=80=99m = comfortable flying from either seat. I live on Long Island , New York . = You can contact me on or off list.=20 =20 Thanks, Adam Molny =20 ------=_NextPart_000_052A_01CCFABD.14035F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

True =E2=80=93 Adam and all of us should get initial and recurrent = training from an instructor (not necessarily a test pilot) to insure we = are competent and current in our respective a/c.=C2=A0 That instructor = needs to be one who is completely familiar with the a/c involved.=C2=A0 = LOBO is an excellent source of such folks.=C2=A0 However, that being = said, the more copilot time you can amass, especially if you=E2=80=99re = doing the flying , prior to or concurrent with that initial flight, the = more you will likely get out of that initial =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D = training.=C2=A0

 

I suspect you=E2=80=99re saying that Adam and others should not = substitute flying around with a friend in his Legacy for serious = syllabus training and for checkout or for insurance requirements.=C2=A0 = I would agree with that.

 

Additionally, unless the owner has LOTS of hours in type, and = familiarity with dealing with any and all emergencies, he would be very = smart to hire a test pilot for the first flight =E2=80=93 maybe the = first few hours of flight. =C2=A0

 

Regards,
John Barrett

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Art Jensen
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 9:32 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Looking for Legacy stick time in the = Northeast

 

Do yourself a = favor and hire a real test pilot.  If you must you can then have = the test pilot check you out in your plane so you can fly off the = time.

 

Art Jensen

 

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F= rom: = Adam Molny <Adam@ValidationPartners.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net =
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 6:21 AM
Subject: [LML] = Looking for Legacy stick time in the Northeast

 

I= =E2=80=99m very close to flying my Legacy #151 =E2=80=93 today was my = first high-speed taxi test. Here=E2=80=99s a video of my = first engine run: http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D7UWNjakyY1Y

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I= received 6.5 hours of dual last October at the LOBO fly-in in Branson. = It=E2=80=99s been four months so I=E2=80=99d like to brush up before my = first flight. Is there anyone in the area who wouldn=E2=80=99t mind = taking me up for an hour or so? I=E2=80=99d like to do some takeoffs, = slow flight, pattern work, and approaches to landing. I=E2=80=99m = comfortable flying from either seat. I live on Long Island , New York . = You can contact me on or off list.

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T= hanks,

A= dam Molny

 

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