X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from raven.ravenwebhosting.com ([72.9.254.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5416664 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:53:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.9.254.67; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from 221-56.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com ([68.202.56.221]:60650 helo=[192.168.1.119]) by raven.ravenwebhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1mxC-0004Ka-SM for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:52:30 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] G900 users From: paul miller In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:52:26 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - raven.ravenwebhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: I confirm Jon's comments and offer the same advice. I've told this = story before but new builders should be refreshed. With my Legacy came = the Avidyne promise to support the Entegra certfied units. They only = sold a couple and of course it is no longer supported by Avidyne unless = I want to load Cirrus software and use Cirrus settings. My advice = would be to stay away from Certified units in an experimental = application unless there are circumstances that warrant otherwise. I'd = love to sell my units to a Cirrus driver and go to an experimental set = of displays with all the flaws that might come with that decision. I = believe I'd get updated software, features, lower price point and better = support. I could be wrong. Paul Spruce Creek On 2012-02-26, at 4:42 PM, jon hadlich wrote: > G900 users and guys thinking EFIS. When you buy Garmin you are = dealing with the new King, with intended pun. They are probably now the = leaders of most GA related equipment. When you deal with them you get a = huge company with a perceived sense of reliability and dependability. = What you also get is the FAA mandating certain things. They're very = regimented in their thinking. They have certain things they want to see = and don't want to see. The FAA is a little more lax with the = experimental community ( they let you have engine monitoring on the = EFIS), but still expect certain things Garmin can't deviate from.One of = these things is probably software updates and the testing procedure. = It's probably a pain in the ass. I think this is where a lot of ignoring = of any recommendations or advice from the users comes from. Garmin can't = budge either due to FAA, cost or both. > If you want to suggest or ask for something out of the ordinary or = specific to your airframe, go with Advanced Flight Systems, Grand Rapids = Tech, Dynon. These systems are geared toward the experimental community = and are more open to suggestions or unusual requests.Their equipment is = designed for a wide range of aircraft instead of just 5. In my = experience all these companies are just as picky about their equipment = as Garmin and they are generally as dependable. And they're mostly very = nice to deal with. > As to software, all software is the ultimate "black box" to most of = us. All software should be completely tested in a flight environment, my = opinion. I'm sure all the EFIS software guys do this. And there's still = that bug that might crop up in an obscure situation that the testing = guys didn't try.=20 > I'm not an EFIS expert, just an installer. When you buy Garmin, you = get some of the best. But you're stuck with what you get. >=20 > --=20 > Jon Hadlich > AI Systems > (541) 815-7381