X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:42:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTP id 5414100 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:57:04 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.95; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q1OLuLJp011045 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:21 -0500 Received: from core-mtd002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.197]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B709EE00008A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:21 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <48e1.5c475548.3c796185@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] rudder balance X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_48e1.5c475548.3c796185_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [67.175.156.123] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:413573344:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc4f480785735a --part1_48e1.5c475548.3c796185_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Ed, =20 Some starters are very ineffective as the voltage drops because of how they= =20 are wound. B&C starters do not have this problem. Further more, It=20 takes very little resistance during the high current draw to drop the volt= age,=20 perhaps so there is not enough to turn the starter. I would check the=20 circuit for any resistance, no matter how small and I would research the= =20 characteristics of the starter. =20 Grayhawk =20 =20 =20 In a message dated 2/24/2012 3:40:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20 egraylaw@swbell.net writes: =20 I=E2=80=99m almost done with my L 360. The manual calls for 2 lbs. of le= ad=20 weights on the leading edge of the rudder and enuf additional weight on th= e=20 counterbalance horn to put the rudder in balance. The weights on the le= ading=20 edge are only one inch ahead of the hinge line, thus very ineffective as = =20 balance. The horn still needs 4-5 lbs of lead to balance. The lead on= =20 the leading edge between hinges seems to be dead weight to me=E2=80=A6Lanc= air guys=20 say =E2=80=9Cfollow the book=E2=80=9D. I think all lead should be in the ho= rn, as far from=20 the hinge line as possible. Is there some mechanical reason to put lead o= n=20 the leading edge between the hinges? The Legacy does not seem to have lea= d=20 there, does it? Legacy instructions say =E2=80=9Cput additional weight in = the horn=20 near the factory weight=E2=80=9D , how much weight is the factory quickbui= ld ?=20 Next issue, my Odyssy 680 new battery does not crank the IO 360. The=20 battery is behind copilot seat, about 7 ft. of No. 2 CABLE runs to start r= elay=20 on firewall. Battery relay on battery box. Do I need shorter cable or=20 bigger cable to get the amps to the starter motor? Battery could be moved= to=20 front of firewall if necessary.=20 Thanks for help on these issues. The factory guys barely remember the=20 320-360 series.=20 Ed Gray , Dallas L360, Superior IO 360, Dynon Skyview and txpd, Garmin SL= =20 30, 214 734 2524 --part1_48e1.5c475548.3c796185_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Ed,
 
Some starters are very ineffective as the voltage drops because of how= they=20 are wound.  B&C starters do not have this problem.  Further m= ore,=20 It takes very little resistance during the high current draw to drop the=20 voltage, perhaps so there is not enough to turn the starter.  I w= ould=20 check the circuit for any resistance, no matter how small and I would resea= rch=20 the characteristics of the starter.
 
Grayhawk
 
 
In a message dated 2/24/2012 3:40:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 egraylaw@swbell.net writes:
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I=E2=80=99m almost d= one with my L=20 360.   The manual calls for 2 lbs. of lead weights on the leadi= ng=20 edge of the rudder and enuf additional weight on the counterbalance horn = to=20 put the rudder in balance.   The  weights on the leading e= dge=20 are only one inch ahead of the hinge line, thus very ineffective as=20 balance.  The horn still needs 4-5 lbs of lead to balance. &nbs= p;=20 The lead on the leading edge between hinges seems to be dead weight to=20 me=E2=80=A6Lancair guys say =E2=80=9Cfollow the book=E2=80=9D. I think al= l lead should be in the horn,=20 as far from the hinge line as possible.  Is there some mechanical re= ason=20 to put lead on the leading edge between the hinges?  The Legacy does= not=20 seem to have lead there, does it? Legacy instructions say =E2=80=9Cput ad= ditional=20 weight in the horn near the factory weight=E2=80=9D , how much weight is = the factory=20 quickbuild ?

 

Next issue, my Odyss= y 680 new=20 battery does not crank the IO 360.  The battery is behind copilot se= at,=20 about 7 ft. of No. 2 CABLE runs to start relay on firewall.  Battery= =20 relay on battery box.  Do I need shorter cable or bigger cable to ge= t the=20 amps to the starter motor?  Battery could be moved to front of firew= all=20 if necessary.

 

Thanks for help on t= hese=20 issues.  The factory guys barely remember the 320-360=20 series.

 

Ed Gray , Dallas&nbs= p; L360,=20 Superior IO 360, Dynon Skyview and txpd, Garmin SL 30, 214 734=20 2524

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