X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5412238 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:56:39 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.206; envelope-from=starliteaviation@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 19:56:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.32] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 19:56:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 19:56:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 973832.4412.bm@omp1032.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5949 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2012 19:56:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rc/ns2C23r4zGdwFRhxKyyyEILdFjrOOwZ+hN3+XZRLp1PY3MpQzAbuWV8Zjg/XShA+/kVHcDGUXMivwvmjyyNjVNsf3EQXHXqi2RtzmzXKFwFvPx4UVzZzWggObf05gnTBKxRDRNmDswuzBA1Ak/JImi7rNKa7MBB4foYRXBVM=; X-YMail-OSG: AGG75jkVM1kwEqKk0veVsa6eeXyXOGYbCZVmdmRhoxmH8HY sA6a8AnzSe5u7zH0yeM6LQfJrLoXKy7613qOd3wEtuhWCKl4IR_ZXcBLoOvE zmpU8jyg5j7NQwjVRiZ5yHb6JKs1tnXRBUwSdNrd7g.S9a0DXIF8cHWtJ23h ZCgYEymvnzGfEJYFT5A_FN8DML_5gQLn3QOtx6CVdXT_Anpd1cQYPmQOBD8N ohSP5n3TVmuXYmC0RIIE_G3AZFNgBSu_W8ch_geeN9kJrRAQAjmJVknqrmUO HGy1wCeIs96chq0rHP7_hXR7Vjiy.kWn7dCulwBtGY7fxYxqXSaAPG_ZAvgb .QUWQuoi1.lPGKSidkJcjYanq1DsuPhYveMPr9pYeP4x6ef6VPV3LqhppHst 2j0yrOn9CkaXjrapaKj8kteT.hkirvrlHM2TIudN1gkXj3ZqwSFoci6DXwMA RZc1AZrlz1h0ddrxqkGcrApDxIOTqRF.rTdipBRnB_YSxgeHz732ufpt_API xn2ybZcDdnEgqCksz6t9RHsZ5Hg5USwnrR1VvmwSDYFJ0dQ_YglusuqyJJlg - Received: from [98.145.4.75] by web112110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:56:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 X-Original-Message-ID: <1330026964.87827.YahooMailNeo@web112110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Alberti Reply-To: Chris Alberti Subject: All G900X Users X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1747566840-2115183974-1330026964=:87827" ---1747566840-2115183974-1330026964=:87827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have a G900X with a TruTrak Sorcerer auto pilot in our Lancair 4P TSIO 5= 50B. We have had Advantage=0AAvionics in Chino, California install and upda= te the G900X and they have done a=0Agreat job. However, the updates we rece= ive from Garmin are the most perplexing=0Asoftware we have ever encountered= . For some reason Garmin has never sent out=0Aany information on any revisi= on and what the updates contain or how the=0Arevision will change or affect= the aircraft. We started with software version=0A5, then 8, and are now ru= nning 10. None of the software is user configurable=0Awhich is a real probl= em. We have had numerous conversations with Tim Larberg=0Awho has always be= en very helpful in every way he can but here is the real=0Aproblem. Every s= uggestion we make to improve the software falls on deaf ears.=C2=A0=C2=A0= =0AWe started with a fuel=0Aflow annunciator and alarm that was set to high= so every time you reduced power=0Ait would alarm usually while taxing and = of course when ground or tower was=0Atrying to talk to you. Garmin fixed th= at problem but not without some=0Aresistance. We just upgraded from version= 8 to 10 to take advantage of a fully=0Aintegrated auto pilot, a profile fl= ight view, and some other upgrades. But now=0Awe have other problems. First= we have a pathway error Garmin can't figure out=0Aand has no idea where it= came from. Advantage Avionics had to reload version 10=0Aseveral times bef= ore it started to work correctly but with the pathway error=0Astill present= . Second, the altitude entered into the G900X is always plus one=0Afoot in = the Sorcerer. Example 7000 in G900X 7001 in Sorcerer. After talking to=0ALu= cas at TruTrak he indicated that it was a side effect of the information th= at=0Acomes over the ARINC data lines to the Sorcerer from the G900X. Basica= lly it is=0Aa rounded up bit. TruTrak was going to fix it but then decided = it was a good=0Aindicator that altitude data was being received from an ext= ernal source. Third,=0Athe first time I went to LOP using the GAMI big pull= and fuel flow indicator=0Athe engine quit. Yes, I said quit. There is a bi= g lag in the indicated and real=0Afuel flow creating a safety issue. I knew= immediately something was changed in=0Athe software. After talking to Garm= in about the problem Garmin admitted they=0Achanged the software filter on = the fuel flow but again didn=E2=80=99t let anyone know.=0AWe have put up wi= th the fuel quantity being defaulted at 110 gallons when we=0Ahave a 90 gal= lon total but now Garmin has said the future updates will be=0Adefaulted to= 200 gallons.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0ASo what has Garmin to=0Asay about this? "It is = what it is". What kind of attitude is this to=0Atake? This is no way to tre= at loyal customers who have paid top dollar for an=0Aoperating system. So f= or now we will be returning to version 8, losing out on=0Aan integrated aut= o pilot, profile flight view, and other good upgrades with=0Asome not so go= od. Garmin had the right idea when they came up with the G900X=0Afor the ex= perimental market but have become so user unfriendly we question=0Awhether = we will be installing them in our next experimental.=C2=A0=0ASuggestions:= =C2=A0=0A1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t delete user=0Asettings every ti= me we do a software update. This can create an unsafe=0Aenvironment not to = mention all the work of re-entering settings.=0A=C2=A0MFD USER SETTINGS. = =0AMap Setup page. There are=0Athirteen items on this page alone.=0ASoft Ke= ys. Need to enter=0Atraffic, Nexrad or terrain, etc.=0ANavigation status ba= r has=0Afour configurable fields. =C2=A0=0AAny scheduled events such=0Aas s= witching fuel tanks, oil changes, etc. =0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0PFD USER SETTINGS=0ATim/Ref. There are six=0Aitems = here. =0ASoft Keys. There are ten=0Aitems here.=0ADon't forget all Com/Nav= =0Avolumes default to 9.6%. =0A2. A/P altitude delay=0Afrom the G900X to th= e Sorcerer. Seems there is a 3-5 second delay of=0Ainformation. Would have = helped if we knew about this in a revision letter.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A3. TSIO 55= 0E is only=0A=E2=80=9C550=E2=80=9D series engine to choose from. Covers mos= t of the engines similarities but=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t cover the slight differ= ences.=C2=A0=0A4. Should be able to=0Aconfigure all engine parameters per a= ircraft. This only makes sense.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A5. List of software=0Arevisio= ns. Let us know what we are to expect before we load new software using=0AI= nstallation bulletins/advisory memos.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A6. Configurable airfram= e=0Aspecs (fuel quantity, airspeeds, etc.)=C2=A0=0A7. Splash Screen for=0AL= ancair.=C2=A0=0A8. Fuel Flow lags. This=0Ais just plain dangerous. The inst= rument should be accurate as it was in version=0A8.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A9. A/P al= titude is one=0Afoot high on Sorcerer readout. This is a TruTrac error/indi= cator of information=0Abeing transferred.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0AWe would appreciate= any=0Apositive or negative input from anyone who uses a G900X. Please incl= ude your=0Atype of aircraft, auto pilot and engine type. Send it to the ema= il address=0Abelow and we will add it to our letter to Garmin.=0A=C2=A0 =0A= Fly Safe, =0A=0AChristopher J. Alberti =0AKNYL AOPA ASN Volunteer =0AN441= JH Lancair 4P Hanger C3=0APresident/CEO =0AStarlite Aviation Technologies L= LC =0A1963 S. 39th Drive =0AYuma, Arizona 85364 =0APhone: 928-581-2383 =0AF= ax: 928-329-6488 =0AEmail: starliteaviation@yahoo.com =0AWeb Site: www.star= liteat.com=0A=0AThis message contains confidential information only for the= use of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, or the person respo= nsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that rea= ding, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohi= bited. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify us, by r= eplying to the sender, and delete the original message immediately thereaft= er. ---1747566840-2115183974-1330026964=:87827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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We have a G900X with a=0ATruTrak Sorcerer auto pilot in our Lancair 4P TSIO 550B. We h= ave had Advantage=0AAvionics in Chino, California install and update the G9= 00X and they have done a=0Agreat job. However, the updates we receive from = Garmin are the most perplexing=0Asoftware we have ever encountered. For som= e reason Garmin has never sent out=0Aany information on any revision and wh= at the updates contain or how the=0Arevision will change or affect the airc= raft. We started with software version=0A5, then 8, and are now running 10.= None of the software is user configurable=0Awhich is a real problem. We ha= ve had numerous conversations with Tim Larberg=0Awho has always been very h= elpful in every way he can but here is the real=0Aproblem. Every suggestion= we make to improve the software falls on deaf ears.  
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We started with a fu= el=0Aflow annunciator and alarm that was set to high so every time you redu= ced power=0Ait would alarm usually while taxing and of course when ground o= r tower was=0Atrying to talk to you. Garmin fixed that problem but not with= out some=0Aresistance. We just upgraded from version 8 to 10 to take advant= age of a fully=0Aintegrated auto pilot, a profile flight view, and some oth= er upgrades. But now=0Awe have other problems. First we have a pathway erro= r Garmin can't figure out=0Aand has no idea where it came from. Advantage A= vionics had to reload version 10=0Aseveral times before it started to work = correctly but with the pathway error=0Astill present. Second, the altitude = entered into the G900X is always plus one=0Afoot in the Sorcerer. Example 7= 000 in G900X 7001 in Sorcerer. After talking to=0ALucas at TruTrak he indicated that it was a side effect of the inform= ation that=0Acomes over the ARINC data lines to the Sorcerer from the G900X= . Basically it is=0Aa rounded up bit. TruTrak was going to fix it but then decided it was a good=0Aindicator that alti= tude data was being received from an external source. Third,=0Athe first ti= me I went to LOP using the GAMI big pull and fuel flow indicator=0Athe engi= ne quit. Yes, I said quit. There is a big lag in the indicated and real=0Af= uel flow creating a safety issue. I knew immediately something was changed = in=0Athe software. After talking to Garmin about the problem Garmin admitte= d they=0Achanged the software filter on the fuel flow but again didn=E2=80= =99t let anyone know.=0AWe have put up with the fuel quantity being default= ed at 110 gallons when we=0Ahave a 90 gallon total but now Garmin has said = the future updates will be=0Adefaulted to 200 gallons.  
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<= span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 1= 2pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>So what has Garmin to=0As= ay about this? "It is what it is". What kind of attitude is this to=0Atake?= This is no way to treat loyal customers who have paid top dollar for an=0A= operating system. So for now we will be returning to version 8, losing out = on=0Aan integrated auto pilot, profile flight view, and other good upgrades= with=0Asome not so good. Garmin had the right idea when they came up with = the G900X=0Afor the experimental market but have become so user unfriendly = we question=0Awhether we will be installing them in our next experimental.<= /span> <= /span>
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Suggestio= ns: 
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1.   = =0AD= on=E2=80=99t delete user=0Asettings every time we do a software update. Thi= s can create an unsafe=0Aenvironment not to mention all the work of re-ente= ring settings.
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 MFD USER SETTINGS.
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<= span style=3D'color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12= pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Map Setup page. There are= =0Athirteen items on this page alone.
=0A=0A
Soft Keys. Need to enter=0Atraffic, Nexrad or ter= rain, etc.
=0A=0A
N= avigation status bar has=0Afour configurable fields.  
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Any scheduled events such=0Aas switching fuel tanks, oil cha= nges, etc.
 
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        PFD USER SETTINGS
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Tim/Ref. There are six=0Aitems her= e.
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<= span style=3D'color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12= pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Soft Keys. There are ten= =0Aitems here.
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Don't forget a= ll Com/Nav=0Avolumes default to 9.6%.
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2. A/P altitude delay=0Afrom the G900X to the Sorcerer. Seems ther= e is a 3-5 second delay of=0Ainformation. Would have helped if we knew abou= t this in a revision letter.  
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3. TSIO 550E is only=0A=E2=80=9C550=E2=80=9D series e= ngine to choose from. Covers most of the engines similarities but=0Adoesn= =E2=80=99t cover the slight differences. 
=0A=0A
4. Should be able to=0Aconfigure all engine par= ameters per aircraft. This only makes sense.  
=0A=0A
5. List of software=0Arevisions. Let= us know what we are to expect before we load new software using=0AInstalla= tion bulletins/advisory memos.  
=0A=0A
6. Configurable airframe=0Aspecs (fuel quantity, ai= rspeeds, etc.) 
=0A=0A=
 
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8. Fuel Flow lags. This=0Ais just plain dangerous. The= instrument should be accurate as it was in version=0A8.  
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= 9. A/P altitude is one=0A= foot high on Sorcerer readout. This is a TruTrac error/indicator of informa= tion=0Abeing transferred.  
=0A=0A
We would appreciate any=0Apositive or negative input fr= om anyone who uses a G900X. Please include your=0Atype of aircraft, auto pi= lot and engine type. Send it to the email address=0Abelow and we will add i= t to our letter to Garmin.
=0A=0A&nbs= p;
=0A
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Fly Saf= e,

Christopher J. Alberti
=0A
KNYL AOPA ASN Volunteer
=0A
N441JH Lancair 4P Hanger C3
Presid= ent/CEO
Starlite Aviation Technologies LLC
1963 S. 39th Drive
Y= uma, Arizona 85364
Phone: 928-581-2383
Fax: 928-329-6488
Email:= starliteaviation@= yahoo.com =0A
Web Site: www.starliteat.com
This message contains confide= ntial information only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the = addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, yo= u are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying = this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by m= istake, please notify us, by replying to the sender, and delete the origina= l message immediately thereafter.
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