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I am one Canadian who resents your remarks.  You guys are really unlucky 
that your society is so fractured that the average Joe needs to travel 
around with a weapon.

  Take a good luck at your society, it needs it, but then you are all too 
busy
playing politics to have the ability to govern yourselves in the best 
interests of the people.

Grow up!

Ian Crowe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hafen" <j.hafen@comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:47 PM
Subject: [LML] Be careful what you carry into Canada


Colyn:

To John's point below, Canadians also have real problems with suppressed 
(silenced) weapons, fully automatic weapons, shoulder fired heat seeking 
missiles, tactical nuclear weapons, and biological weapons (like anthrax).

Be careful what you take with you.  The Canadians seem to have no sense of 
humor what-so-ever.

I'm frankly not sure how the average Canadian even goes to the store for 
bread and milk, armed with nothing more than a ripe colostomy bag to pummel 
a bad guy with if needed.

I think knives are illegal as well.  They have these special spoons to 
spread butter on toast.

John Hafen ;)


On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:33 AM, John Schroeder wrote:

A radio licenses are not "practically" necessary. US and Canada have tacitly 
agreed not to check for them. This comes from my air tour leader for two 
trips to Alaska. With these two trips and two more to Canada, I would advise 
not to worry. The bigger worry is if you take a firearm into Canada. Lots of 
paperwork there and huge penalties if you slip up. Mace or pepper spray is 
also prohibited. They always refer to it as pepper spray.

Also, when declaring spirits, the correct answer is: for personal 
consumption. Customs in Canada are quite simple- a call before takeoff, 
answer their questions, fly, land, taxi to the customs area, call the toll 
free number again. More often than not, they will verify the previous info 
and give you a clearance number to show you have passed. You probably won't 
even have to shut down if your cell phone is rigged for Canada.

eAPIS is the most challenging. Setup your account on line and front load the 
info for the trip. You can declare the person who occupies the right front 
seat as crew, and that makes it easy to fill in the blanks for the flight 
clearance. Be sure to do a print screen of the email they send back and also 
of the final screen of the filing. I know of one case where they screwed up 
and accused the pilot of not filing. He had copies of the email and filing. 
Big fine if you screw up on this bureaucratic caper. Recently, they have put 
out the word that they will be enforcing more.

If you are not sure what to put in an ICAO flight plan, call their flight 
service and they will help you fill it in. If you stop for fuel at 
Ketchikan, AK, and then file for an airport in WA, you will not have to 
worry about CA customs or eAPIS. I would file IFR on this leg. Lots of 
beautiful scenery on this leg, but the airports are but much father apart. 
File for a higher altitude, like 9 or 10K.

Cheers,
John

On Oct 24, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

> First step is to get through the paper work:
> airplane radio license
> pilot radio license
> eapis registration
> eapis flight plan.
>
> ....way less stressful if you start early.
>
> then you need charts.   foreflight has a $120 add-on for that.
>
> Colyn
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Danny Miller wrote:
>
> My wife and I are considering a flight from Manassas, VA to Eagle River, 
> AK
> to Portland, OR and back to VA sometime in the next 6-8 weeks in our
> LNC2-360.  I've never flown over Canada and know little or nothing about
> their airspace.  I know a few of you have done this so it seemed like a 
> good
> place to ask for advice as my first step in researching this adventure.
>
> Danny Miller
> N 38° 43' 25.7"
> W 77° 30' 38.6"
>
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