X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.94] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5171781 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:52:28 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.94; envelope-from=gbfitz@swbell.net Received: from [98.139.44.106] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2011 07:51:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.88] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2011 07:51:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2011 07:51:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 176142.43473.bm@omp1025.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 48575 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2011 07:51:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=p8W4vijdq0y8GWd8nneve1sAoa3d4srT4KG2+kcP59wgad7t6JhZpaweG326/vBCrkwdHRz+xNUSrM02Ba1yDWatPC749TaX7dDmrRYLzZA0ne28ja7Oaf3GObTmJRLW8thn/1JN8TSd91DvHxiKrsB5sQalSlKws7bWGLUFem0= ; X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 8Og..F0VM1nu1PeqY.N4pIBAxnxQen1ihJ_VmIluIj6dAeI 5ffWl5HHpmQF3xMStfkcYBsrzIiDv68VqzQgej4wr_jnCJw5PxQ4z.xrXjnE IrI9EO.zKpwJAsvK2rTSn4GR6AGBjbonzNg57gw67XaOPx_ZYd6lVIFICJDG NONbLG2.bcNX3s58vgRSXjjT5ZOpcJHdnjOBek_IyFZ3u.BaSwA_0.x0FWA3 b1yE9mwUzSy6KwhCWqEOp7jjnZ5XC1qcPdZGGrm30mKSpZzPYj9M51qpBot0 4xZzNqfNrDoSSuk4nE0BOBhtmJnZAVC1XC7bdrwdKjnnIgQkitffyn8IXmZn ZzNu4Emk5YNCWDaxeQK1DLPrAepXHabnnzfMaOJrtN0ZV1PPakCx7b8_Hyr9 wjzdJrIlQS5.QTX0BEI.HAfkoRsjnpYbSs0uqwp7yL_QJ X-Yahoo-SMTP: YDcEmEeswBCQ9VCECdJgJSdIOsUDlolGAbHYYIoo Received: from MONSTERGARAGE76 (gbfitz@99.144.117.48 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Oct 2011 00:51:51 -0700 PDT From: "Gary Fitzgerald" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: [LML] Re: iPad X-Original-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:51:48 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <001901cc92ea$f3d92a80$db8b7f80$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcySfVpFLGO3yWTbSmqiXr8pWyRAKgAW0plA Content-Language: en-us Terrence, Ah - once again, my less-than-adequate explanation has caused confusion. To clarify: In order to legally fly IFR GPS approaches, your equipment needs to meet TSO-C129a Class A1 for non-precision approaches, or TSO C-146a Class 3 for use as primary navigation on LPV approaches (which are only available if you have WAAS). C129a references RAIM directly, and C146a references several other documents, and I'm betting one of them has a RAIM reference. The last time I checked (which admittedly was several months ago), no handheld GPS or tablet/laptop/smart phone/PDA based GPS and software combination was certified to either C129a or 146a, and the only GPS receivers that were certified to these standards were panel-mount receivers, among them the ones that I mentioned. C129a has a bunch of stuff about integrity alarms, notifications, and annunciations, and C146a has a section on software qualification, so I'm guessing that situation hasn't changed. As I understand it (and I could be wrong here), RAIM applies to both WAAS and non-WAAS approaches. If a combination of satellite geometry and satellite/ground station outages can't guarantee a certain accuracy, a WAAS LPV approach will get downgraded to an LNAV (reduced-precision) approach. You now know everything I know about TSOs, GPS receivers, and IFR approaches. Hopefully this clarifies my previous reply. If not, we may need Brent to bring his sock puppets and educate both of us. I was at Branson also, and I was hoping the GAMI talk would have covered more engine operation, but I must say I learned more about combining benzene rings and carbon atoms to make either solvent or gasoline than any time since high-school chemistry, and was informative as to the economics of a 100LL replacement. May give me a project to work on when I finally finish this plane. That restaurant at Smartt Field changes ownership on pretty much a yearly basis, which is a shame since they usually had some decent food. Since the local EAA chapter moved their meetings from Sunday afternoon to Saturday morning, my attendance has, uh, sorta fallen off, so I don't get to the restaurant as much as I have in the past, but I can't remember that restaurant going more that 3 years under the same ownership. Gary Fitzgerald LNC2 ~70% St. Charles, MO Looking for a good deal on a rebuildable (I)O-360