X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:32:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.64.152.110] (HELO sdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5138229 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:38:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.64.152.110; envelope-from=Ronald@sdc.com Received: from [192.168.0.14] [68.202.59.4] by sdc.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 1be400043cffbee5; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:36:53 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:38:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Chelton??and more... From: Ronald STEVENS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Chelton??and more... In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3399986293_60525170" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3399986293_60525170 Content-type: text/plain; charset="Big5" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I think I have made some Chelton fans mad LOL So let me explain the reason why I am thinking of doing the upgrade to the Garmin G3X.=20 I flew with the Chelton IFR, I had training IFR, under the hood, real IMC (and I mean real heavy IMC including turbulence LOL) and the Chelton does really good, but now that I also installed the GTN750 I miss that I cannot put flight plans into the GTN750 and it will not transfer to the Chelton. So right now I have 2 GPS/VOR installations that can steer the TruTrak Sorcerer using a toggle switch. Now putting 2 flight plans into 2 different systems doesn't make a lot of sense and can be really stressful when ATC ask you to change the plan (as they always do LOL), or flying the Garmin and then ATC ask you to head 30' to the left for spacing=A1K(switch back to trk, make sure that trk is heading the right direction, set trk 30 degrees to whatever direction, and than .=A1K..you get the picture right, too many things to do, so too much time having your head in the cockpit while you should look more outside :) So right now I am flying the Chelton, IFR and use the Garmin to show pretty pictures LOL=20 -- Ronald 67 hours and counting=A1K. Ps I do have the certified Chelton and WSI for any takers ;)~ From: Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:12:19 -0400 To: Subject: [LML] Re: Chelton??and more... Ron, =20 You are one of many guys that I have seen with this issue. It is not the equipment it is the training or lack of it. How many hours of training have you put in with an instructor learning to fly the Chelton? If flew Cheltons for many years --they are a joy to fly IFR. You just need a good Chelton instructor. It is much cheaper than a panel swap. =20 Have you flown a Garmin G3X before? Same issue ..trainig. You cannot just buy one of these technical wonders and jump in..... =20 Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Ronald STEVENS To: lml Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 5:24 am Subject: [LML] Chelton??and more... Hello guys Well you perhaps did see the picture of my new panel, and it really looks good,=20 but after flying with it hard IFR I have to admit that my currency on the Garmins is better than this from the Cheltons. Also to new Garmin GTN750 does=20 not talk to the Chelton (in other words, you can put a flight plan in both systems and can switch between the 2 systems for your autopilot). So I am thinking of selling my Chelton (3 screen system, including the WSI module) and getting either the Garmin G500 or a couple of Garmin G3X screens. Now I asked an avionics shop what my chelton would cost, and he told me tha= t this is at least 60k. But I know I will not get 60k back for it right now, but=20 if someone is interested than make me an offer I cannot refuse and I will get=20 the Chelton out of my plane and start working on my panel again lol =3D=3D Ronald >65 hours and counting ps Stuff I really like about the chelton is the VFR approach, also the HITS is=20 pretty good, the engine monitor is very clean and clear. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --B_3399986293_60525170 Content-type: text/html; charset="Big5" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I think I have made some Che= lton fans mad LOL 

So let me explain the reaso= n why I am thinking of doing the upgrade to the Garmin G3X. 
=
I flew with the Chelton IFR, I had training IFR, under the ho= od, real IMC (and I mean real heavy IMC including turbulence LOL) and the Ch= elton does really good, but now that I also installed the GTN750 I miss that= I cannot put flight plans into the GTN750 and it will not transfer to the C= helton.

So right now I have 2 GPS/VOR installations= that can steer the TruTrak Sorcerer using a toggle switch.

Now putting 2 flight plans into 2 different systems doesn't make a = lot of sense and can be really stressful when ATC ask you to change the plan= (as they always do LOL), or flying the Garmin and then ATC ask you to head = 30' to the left for spacing…(switch back to trk, make sure that trk is= heading the right direction, set trk 30 degrees to whatever direction, and = than .…..you get the picture right, too many things to do, so too much= time having your head in the cockpit while you should look more outside :)<= /div>

So right now I am flying the Chelton, IFR and use t= he Garmin to show pretty pictures LOL 

-- Rona= ld 67 hours and counting….

Ps I do have the c= ertified Chelton and WSI for any takers ;)~ 

From: <v= tailjeff@aol.com>
Reply-To: = Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancair= online.net>
Date: Tue, 27 S= ep 2011 15:12:19 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: Chelton??and more...
<= /div>

Ron,
 
You are one of many guys that I have seen with this i= ssue. It is not the equipment it is the training or lack of it. How many hou= rs of training have you put in with an instructor learning to fly the Chelto= n? If flew Cheltons for many years --they are a joy to fly IFR. You just nee= d a good Chelton instructor. It is much cheaper than a panel swap.
 
Have you flown a Garmin G3X before? Same issue ..tra= inig. You cannot just buy one of these technical wonders and jump in.....&nb= sp;
 
Jeff



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Subject: [LML] Chelton??and more...

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