Return-Path: Received: from imo-r16.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.70]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:10:44 -0400 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id k.73.492a6e8 (4331) for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: RWolf99@aol.com Message-ID: <73.492a6e8.268bb6d3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:15:15 EDT Subject: Cutting Table Surface & Workshop Tips To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I cut my fiberglass on a piece of masonite, rather than formica. Eventually you may have to replace the masonite, but that's cheap. Use the pizza roller cutter -- the plastic handled cutter is okay. Have a sharp pair of scissors available, too, for little cuts. By the way, don't EVER get epoxy near your fiberglass cutting table, or near your fiberglass cutting tools. I am working in a garage that is smaller than desired. (I mean, it's smaller than a basketball court, okay?) It's a big job for me to cut fiberglass, since I have to clean off a worktable, put my masonite sheet on it, roll out and cut the fiberglass. I envy you guys that can dedicate an entire table area to a roll of fiberglass. To make life easier, I cut a bunch of fiberglass strips at once and save them for later. I fill up a 14 x 24 inch plastic bag (more on this later) with about 20 sheets of fiberglass, which are cut on the bias so that the fibers are 45 degrees to the edges of the sheets, which each measure about 13 x 22 inches. In this process I get some odd pieces, such as triangles with selvage and an occasional smaller rectangle. Save these, too, since they come in handy for small jobs. The plastic bags I use are 4 mil polyethylene, 14 x 24 inches. The come in boxes of several hundred for a small amount -- I forget, but I think it's about $20. Last time I bought a box was two gallons of epoxy ago, and there's about a third left. Draw your outline for the finished BID tape with a Sharpie marker on the outside of a bag. Slice the edge of the bag so you can lay it open. Place the opened bag on a different piece of masonite, which will get sticky and yucky over time. Take some precut fiberglass from your shelf and trim to approximate size -- get only as many layers as you need. You can lay the clean dry fiberglass on the clean inner surface of the bag, squeegee the epoxy on the other clean inner surface (you get clear bags so you can see the Sharpie marker outline on the outside), and plop the fiberglass over the Sharpie marked outline. As the fiberglass wets out, it becomes transparent so you can see the outline. Repeat as needed until you run out of fiberglass. (You put the right amount on the dry side, right? Don't put out more than you need hoping to count plies -- it doesn't work.) When finished, you can drape the clean dry side of the bag onto the wet side -- sorta rebuilding the bag -- and squish the excess epoxy out. Then you cut the ensemble with the metal pizza roller. This is where the piece of masonite is handy -- it keeps the blade sharp and your table clean. Peel off both sheets of plastic. When you're done, just lean the masonite up against the wall to cure, sticky side in. Use the metal pizza roller from Lancair for cutting wet glass, and store it in a jar containing methylene chloride after you finish the layup, but before the fiberglass sets up. Obviously this only works for BID tapes that are less than 22 inches long, but most of them are. Otherwise, use two bags. My first attempt at this was using Glad wrap from the grocery store. That stuff was way too thin and made a mess. 4 mil plastic is good. You can buy rolls of it at the hardware store, but I find the bags to be more convenient. My shop has only a tiny area that gets sticky. That's the area where I measure out my epoxy. The workbenches and layup tables stay clean because of the masonite. Another thing I do is use 1 liter Nalgene bottles (wide mouth) to hold flox and microballoons. Once in a while I make a huge mess and refill the bottles from the double-plastic-bag supply, but generally I just pour out microbaloons or spoon out flox as needed. If you've got any tips like this, please pass them on. I'm sure I haven't thought of everything! - Rob Wolf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>