X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.73] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2k) with SMTP id 4864942 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:46:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.73; envelope-from=pbricker@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:45:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.10] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:45:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:45:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 241541.72984.bm@omp1010.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 98386 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2011 17:45:33 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.69] (pbricker@76.206.248.200 with login) by smtp125.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2011 09:45:33 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: E_DOnNaswBA_C3UUkqdGieqw9axmS6GTFECYQXU- X-YMail-OSG: _vIXLOQVM1naocx3uOy21EOY85w9EgsUBxkmi5ntPXKDI40 wrPLGuDmX5Y9wBmAY38c_XeSbcuAeh_BMLcKwfffb7maJw6joLUFZoiX4SuR Othu8kCf7mRmGpni3xFhLoQu1QcKqRzGy2BmJ.VMqeTye2LrrGvSfF_wLCGZ 7TYITaglFDBIaak5IHJPvJthDzFt8iJDNXjRdv2i0hDWdkfO27LpgGPi1dRF f0AWLg1V5.XZ0JU8.dsdPZuEc7iMQH_GnJ5KHweqcGag1ba0B5m1BndaX3wf 8uh.p1YXHzVVtuD0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:45:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation From: Paul Bricker X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3380521532_128958001" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3380521532_128958001 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I did use the slow hardener. It was a 75 deg day and the amount of flox required to fill the gaps was fairly substantial, so we still had a lot of heat generated. paul From: Mike Easley Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:34:46 -0500 To: Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation Paul, I can't remember if we used the slow hardener for the door or not when I was in Redmond. Mike In a message dated 2/13/2011 2:11:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, pbricker@att.net writes: > > I bonded my door (Fast build door in an ES) to the top of the fuselage with > the top clecoed in-place. I used towels, etc. to prevent the flox from > running down and attaching to the lower section. A few other things to note. > > > > First, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike mentioned. > > > > Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox into the access holes, my > brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess that oozed out to the > gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as fast as I could. That is > to say, it's a least a three man job. > > > > Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to the inside > during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this step, just > before I installed the instrument panel. > > > > It gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of epoxy > going-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and > dripping. Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat. > > > > Paul Bricker > > ES builder > > Former ES owner > > > > From: Art Bertonina > Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06 -0500 > To: > Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation > > > > > > Tom > > I went through the builder assist at the factory a number of > > years ago. As you suggest the top is cleco'ed in place and > > the door is bonded in, top is then removed again. > > Art > > L IV > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Tom & Beth Sullivan >> >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:37 AM >> >> Subject: [LML] IVP Door Installation >> >> >> >> After a shameful hiatus on my IVPT, I'm finally back on it with some real >> passion. I bought the fast build door, and seems like I remember many >> builders installing it while the fuselage top was temporarily fastened >> (cleco'ed). I will be installing all my windows in the next week, and would >> like to install the door after that, if it's efficient to do before bonding >> the top on. I looked in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search >> filter that doesn't give me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to >> about 10. If someone can give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate >> it. If it's best to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem. >> I'll leave that project until later. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Tom Sullivan >> >> >> >> Fast build kit with slow build builder --B_3380521532_128958001 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I did use the slow hardener. I= t was a 75 deg day and the amount of flox required to fill the gaps was fair= ly substantial, so we still had a lot of heat generated.

paul 

From: Mike Easley <MikeEasley@aol.com>
Reply-To: Lancair Mailing Li= st <lml@lancaironline.net><= br>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:34:46 -0= 500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation

Paul,
=
 
I can't remember if we used the slow hardener for the = door or not when I was in Redmond. 
 
Mike
 = ;
In a message dated 2/13/2011 2:11:11 P.M. Mountain Standard= Time, pbricker@att.net writes:
I bonded my door (Fast build door in an ES) to the top of the fusela= ge with the top clecoed in-place. I used towels, etc. to prevent the flox fr= om running down and attaching to the lower section. A few other things to note. 

First, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike mentioned. 

Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox into the access h= oles, my brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess that oozed out t= o the gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as fast as I could. Th= at is to say, it's a least a three man job.

Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to the ins= ide during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this step, ju= st before I installed the instrument panel.

It gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of e= poxy going-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and dripping. Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat.

Paul Bricker
ES builder
Former ES owner

From: Art Bertonina <artbertolina@earthlink.net&= gt;
Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List= <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: = Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline= .net>
Subject: [LML] Re: IV= P Door Installation

Tom
I went through the builder assist at the= factory a number of
years ago. As you suggest the top is cle= co'ed in place and
the door is bonded in, top is then remov= ed again.
Art
L IV 
----- Original Message -----
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:= 37 AM
Subject: [LML] IVP Door Installation

  After a shameful hiatus on my IVPT= , I'm finally back on it with some real passion.  I bought the fast buil= d door, and seems like I remember many builders installing it while the fuselage top was temporarily fastened (cleco'ed).  I will be insta= lling all my windows in the next week, and would like to install the door aft= er that, if it's efficient to do before bonding the top on. = ; I looked in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search filter that doesn't give me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to about 10.&n= bsp; If someone can give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate it.&n= bsp; If it's best to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem.&= nbsp; I'll leave that project until later.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Tom Sullivan
 
Fast build kit with slow build builder
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