X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2k) with ESMTP id 4864471 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:20:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.143; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1ECJx6s011092 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:19:59 -0500 Received: from core-mkc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mkc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.98.65]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 664ECE000085 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:19:59 -0500 (EST) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <2860f.18216244.3a8a77ef@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:19:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2860f.18216244.3a8a77ef_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5001 X-AOL-IP: 75.71.55.189 X-Originating-IP: [172.29.49.135] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:474184320:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c4d591def011a --part1_2860f.18216244.3a8a77ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul, I can't remember if we used the slow hardener for the door or not when I was in Redmond. Mike In a message dated 2/13/2011 2:11:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, pbricker@att.net writes: I bonded my door (Fast build door in an ES) to the top of the fuselage with the top clecoed in-place. I used towels, etc. to prevent the flox from running down and attaching to the lower section. A few other things to note. First, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike mentioned. Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox into the access holes, my brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess that oozed out to the gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as fast as I could. That is to say, it's a least a three man job. Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to the inside during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this step, just before I installed the instrument panel. It gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of epoxy going-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and dripping. Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat. Paul Bricker ES builder Former ES owner From: Art Bertonina <_artbertolina@earthlink.net_ (mailto:artbertolina@earthlink.net) > Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List <_lml@lancaironline.net_ (mailto:lml@lancaironline.net) > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06 -0500 To: <_lml@lancaironline.net_ (mailto:lml@lancaironline.net) > Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation Tom I went through the builder assist at the factory a number of years ago. As you suggest the top is cleco'ed in place and the door is bonded in, top is then removed again. Art L IV ----- Original Message ----- From: _Tom & Beth Sullivan_ (mailto:toms1@chartermi.net) To: _lml@lancaironline.net_ (mailto:lml@lancaironline.net) Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:37 AM Subject: [LML] IVP Door Installation After a shameful hiatus on my IVPT, I'm finally back on it with some real passion. I bought the fast build door, and seems like I remember many builders installing it while the fuselage top was temporarily fastened (cleco'ed). I will be installing all my windows in the next week, and would like to install the door after that, if it's efficient to do before bonding the top on. I looked in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search filter that doesn't give me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to about 10. If someone can give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate it. If it's best to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem. I'll leave that project until later. Thanks in advance. Tom Sullivan Fast build kit with slow build builder --part1_2860f.18216244.3a8a77ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul,
 
I can't remember if we used the slow hardener for the door or not when= I=20 was in Redmond. 
 
Mike
 
In a message dated 2/13/2011 2:11:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,=20 pbricker@att.net writes:
=
I bonded my door (Fast build door in an ES) to the top of the fusela= ge=20 with the top clecoed in-place. I used towels, etc. to prevent the flox fr= om=20 running down and attaching to the lower section. A few other things to=20 note. 

First, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike=20 mentioned. 

Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox into the access h= oles,=20 my brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess that oozed out t= o the=20 gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as fast as I could. Th= at is=20 to say, it's a least a three man job.

Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to the ins= ide=20 during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this step, ju= st=20 before I installed the instrument panel.

It gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of e= poxy=20 going-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and=20 dripping. Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat.

Paul Bricker
ES builder
Former ES owner

From: Art Bertonina <artbertolina@earthlink.net= >
Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06=20 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door=20 Installation

Tom
I went through the builder assist at the= factory=20 a number of
years ago. As you suggest the top is cle= co'ed in=20 place and
the door is bonded in, top is then remov= ed=20 again.
Art
L IV 
----- Original Message -----
F= rom:=20 Tom=20 & Beth Sullivan
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 = 7:37=20 AM
Subject: [LML] IVP Door=20 Installation

  After a shameful hiatus on my IV= PT, I'm=20 finally back on it with some real passion.  I bought the fast buil= d=20 door, and seems like I remember many builders installing it while the= =20 fuselage top was temporarily fastened (cleco'ed).  I will be insta= lling=20 all my windows in the next week, and would like to install the door aft= er=20 that, if it's efficient to do before bonding the top on. = ; I=20 looked in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search filter that= =20 doesn't give me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to about 10.&n= bsp;=20 If someone can give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate it.&n= bsp;=20 If it's best to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem.&= nbsp;=20 I'll leave that project until later.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Tom Sullivan
 
Fast build kit with slow build=20 builder
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