X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:10:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([98.139.52.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2k) with SMTP id 4863399 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:29:42 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.52.208; envelope-from=pbricker@att.net Received: from [98.139.52.188] by nm11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 00:29:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.163] by tm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 00:29:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 00:29:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 402064.3634.bm@omp1046.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95467 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 00:29:06 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.69] (pbricker@76.206.248.200 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2011 16:29:05 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: E_DOnNaswBA_C3UUkqdGieqw9axmS6GTFECYQXU- X-YMail-OSG: qz7Z3iwVM1mto4.CurmfvLCSsxz5Us.a_UtOBoJu8ESJPfZ 6Dq3.rlsYBefR3rh.LpfGG4U6yG8frTvpV.Es7zatY94HARQJigjzXw5ZCef XLT_iXghku1j6mvZGWKl2A8Smd.7_ECGKSq.5x3nlbEGHJjwGynK8mXD2cCn N3fhNkbuJzD8FUxa5.ry0rYTVhu9PhI3loemkSJt1tUSjBJNZS21Z8PG79Ei FFBCSkgVK1wv9FbvZeAGsE4PxvPJ4C2m0nqtktfwUScddjFMwUyh38Q9AYnr zEUsQLd7oZyK_wH0_ZPJqs5FoVOnfhovWABWs3i8SxCgX X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:28:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation From: Paul Bricker X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3380372944_120083404" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3380372944_120083404 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I bonded my door (Fast build door in an ES) to the top of the fuselage with the top clecoed in-place. I used towels, etc. to prevent the flox from running down and attaching to the lower section. A few other things to note. First, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike mentioned. Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox into the access holes, my brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess that oozed out to the gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as fast as I could. That is to say, it's a least a three man job. Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to the inside during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this step, just before I installed the instrument panel. It gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of epoxy going-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and dripping. Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat. Paul Bricker ES builder Former ES owner From: Art Bertonina Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06 -0500 To: Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation Tom I went through the builder assist at the factory a number of years ago. As you suggest the top is cleco'ed in place and the door is bonded in, top is then removed again. Art L IV > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom & Beth Sullivan > > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:37 AM > > Subject: [LML] IVP Door Installation > > > > After a shameful hiatus on my IVPT, I'm finally back on it with some real > passion. I bought the fast build door, and seems like I remember many > builders installing it while the fuselage top was temporarily fastened > (cleco'ed). I will be installing all my windows in the next week, and would > like to install the door after that, if it's efficient to do before bonding > the top on. I looked in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search > filter that doesn't give me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to about > 10. If someone can give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate it. > If it's best to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem. I'll > leave that project until later. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Tom Sullivan > > > > Fast build kit with slow build builder --B_3380372944_120083404 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I bonded my door (Fast build d= oor in an ES) to the top of the fuselage with the top clecoed in-place. I us= ed towels, etc. to prevent the flox from running down and attaching to the l= ower section. A few other things to note. 

Fir= st, make sure you use the Lancair provided spacers Mike mentioned. 

Second, I had my brother inside injecting the flox int= o the access holes, my brother-in-law on the outside dealing with the excess= that oozed out to the gaps, and I was mixing flox and loading cartridges as= fast as I could. That is to say, it's a least a three man job.
Don't have the windshield installed! It's the only access to th= e inside during this process! I bonding in the windshield well after this st= ep, just before I installed the instrument panel.

I= t gets HOT inside the plane during the process. There is a lot of epoxy goin= g-off, generating heat. It even starts cooking out of the flox and dripping.= Have the guy inside wearing long sleeves and an old hat.

Paul Bricker
ES builder
Former ES owner

From: Art Bertonina <artbertolina@earthlink.net>Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List <<= a href=3D"mailto:lml@lancaironline.net">lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:42:06 -0500
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sub= ject: [LML] Re: IVP Door Installation

<= style>
Tom
I went through the builder assist= at the factory a number of
years ago. As you s= uggest the top is cleco'ed in place and
the door is bonded i= n, top is then removed again.
Art
L IV 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:37= AM
Subject: [LML] IVP Door Installation

  After a shameful hiatus on my IVPT, = I'm finally back on it with some real passion.  I bought the fast build = door, and seems like I remember many builders installing it while the fuselage = top was temporarily fastened (cleco'ed).  I will be installing all my wi= ndows in the next week, and would like to install the door after that, if it's efficient to do before bonding the top on.  I looked = in the archives, but I can't seem to find a search filter that doesn't give = me 3,000 emails, or narrows it down too far to about 10.  If someone ca= n give me direction here, I would greatly appreciate it.  If it's best= to install the door after bonding the top on, no problem.  I'll leave t= hat project until later.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Tom Sullivan
 
Fast build kit with slow build builder
 --B_3380372944_120083404--