X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4662766 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:20:25 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.69.181; envelope-from=wfhannahan@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45168 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2011 21:19:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dEqyNBSh9mLzBvBQY59IbliYz15HXCT0wHEo3poIc6Gz+vDSHQ39sTZUXvs7H3XtTUtCiprs9hUoHkqe1F3QKOM3xGAejoDU41vazuk0CZHzr+LZ82BBLX0K5Imxim/leTQQeYeoJHNi+tlEj2VBBYCWHsh/uKIfuD9dwdV3UyE=; X-Original-Message-ID: <882816.44883.qm@web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7BJRBI4VM1kveRFyNIxpYaGoySBkOdckD6Zzjokm5sEzsAU 7tlb4aLyx1aRhKazc6oo2wQ1QwH1TFt.tzUptYc8HHJXTLKV2DkjUWWb5JWR sQF2uFpONQWdMno9XrcgkyJ5PFDjRgy05UJKEN7vte32foKWTYUcRM3smtZc uRfly1oZIPKdrj0DYze4576S_LtR38Wa1D0EICf0h6KwPT0191hh729Huvc. 3L3PDHgLiwYPjnSXJjt9Cp0T0qq_KgRs5qxIgzuGPoPlXahZJFBYKveTPe6t T1DZpI1zVcoENCOAC9gas7myLH7I7qaBeEbQrECptPxNyqz23dAwTKT8K0wy s0LN8R6.vuQO0oyY_3KRHXDBGpBcTgzb5rzwtleHHV_cgRbHZMmYQ Received: from [174.29.171.130] by web33903.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:19:48 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Hannahan Subject: Fuel Dumping X-Original-To: MAIL LANCAIR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-576738343-1294089588=:44883" --0-576738343-1294089588=:44883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0A=0A=0ARob, that was not a test, it was a stunt designed to sell an=0A= unproven additive. =0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AImagine that you and I invent an anti-= misting additive, and=0Awe want to make a TV commercial to sell our additiv= e and get rich, by crashing a=0Aplane load of dummies without burning them = up. Here is how we do it, separate the fuel from the dummies.=0A=0A=C2=A0= =0A=0A1=E2=80=A6 Rip the fuel tanks open while the plane is still in the=0A= air. The high speed air flow will literally blow most of the fuel out of th= e=0Atanks.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A2=E2=80=A6 Dump the fuel into a thick gravel be= d so that 98% of it=0Awill percolate down where it cannot burn. The surface= film will flash off=0Aquickly.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A3=E2=80=A6 Gently land on = a thick gravel bed gear up, the plane will=0Aslide a long distance dumping = residual fuel, separating it from the plane.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A4=E2=80=A6Whe= n the plane stops any dripping fuel will disappear into=0Athe gravel limiti= ng fire to a small area under each drip.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AThe only way to d= amage the dummies would be to fill the=0Atanks with nitro glycerin or blow = the landing. I wonder if the pilot knew it=0Awas a stunt and blew the landi= ng on purpose.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AI wouldn=E2=80=99t mind if Exxon paid for i= t, but it was our tax=0Adollars being used to fool us. What=E2=80=99s new?= =0A=0A Regards, Bill Hannahan =20 wfhannahan@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 1/3/11, rwolf99@aol.com wrote: From: rwolf99@aol.com Subject: [LML] Fuel Dumping To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 6:35 AM- Rob Wolf=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0Ap.s= . the NASA test in the early 1980's involved a remotely-piloted Convair 720= with an anti-misting additive in the fuel.=C2=A0 As I recall, the remotely= piloted airplane did not hit the intended point on laning and thus the obj= ects intended to puncture the tanks, well, ithey pretty much ripped the win= gs apart, releasing the fuel all at once.=C2=A0 This was a test failure and= the explosion-inhibiting anti-mist additive was not adequately tested.=C2= =A0 Needless to say, they did not repeat the test.=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0Ah= ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Impact_Demonstration=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A --0-576738343-1294089588=:44883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Rob, that was not a test, it was a stunt desig= ned to sell an=0Aunproven additive.

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Imagine that you and I invent a= n anti-misting additive, and=0Awe want to make a TV commercial to sell our = additive and get rich, by crashing a=0Aplane load of dummies without burnin= g them up. Here is how we do it, separate the fuel from the dummies.

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1=E2=80=A6 Rip the fuel tanks open while the plane is still in the=0Aair. = The high speed air flow will literally blow most of the fuel out of the=0At= anks.

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2=E2=80=A6 Dump the fuel into a thick gravel bed so that 98%= of it=0Awill percolate down where it cannot burn. The surface film will fl= ash off=0Aquickly.

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3=E2=80=A6 Gently land on a thick gravel bed gear= up, the plane will=0Aslide a long distance dumping residual fuel, separati= ng it from the plane.

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4=E2=80=A6When the plane stops any dripping fu= el will disappear into=0Athe gravel limiting fire to a small area under eac= h drip.

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The only way to damage the dummies would be to fill the=0Ata= nks with nitro glycerin or blow the landing. I wonder if the pilot knew it= =0Awas a stunt and blew the landing on purpose.

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I wouldn=E2=80=99t m= ind if Exxon paid for it, but it was our tax=0Adollars being used to fool u= s. What=E2=80=99s new?

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Regards,
Bill Hann= ahan


--- On Mon, 1= /3/11, rwolf99@aol.com <rwolf99@aol.com> wrote:

From: rwolf99@aol.com <rwolf99@aol.com>
Subj= ect: [LML] Fuel Dumping
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Monday, Janua= ry 3, 2011, 6:35 AM
- Rob Wolf
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=0A=0A=0Ap.s. the NASA test in the early 1980's involved a remotely-piloted Conva= ir 720 with an anti-misting additive in the fuel.  As I recall, the re= motely piloted airplane did not hit the intended point on laning and thus t= he objects intended to puncture the tanks, well, ithey pretty much ripped t= he wings apart, releasing the fuel all at once.  This was a test failu= re and the explosion-inhibiting anti-mist additive was not adequately teste= d.  Needless to say, they did not repeat the test.
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