X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4662782 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:37:29 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.96; envelope-from=cfi@instructor.net Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p03Laoub021594 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:36:50 -0500 Received: from cfi@instructor.net by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.d03.7ee807ad (37144) for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v129.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA036-5bb84d224167356; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:47 -0500 Received: from web-mmc-d05 (web-mmc-d05.sim.aol.com [205.188.103.95]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v129.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA027-5bb84d224167356; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:39 -0500 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Data Plate Attachment X-Original-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:38 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 72.40.60.58 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: cfi@instructor.net X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: Mail.com Webmail 33069-STANDARD Received: from 72.40.60.58 by web-mmc-d05.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.95) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:38 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CD79A56FEB6C78-1384-8A41@web-mmc-d05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: cfi@instructor.net The only thing required to be on the data plate are: (per CFR 45.11 and=20 45.13) 1 - Builders name (must match the name on the A/W cert and registration) 2 - Model designation (whatever you have named your airplane-again must=20 match A/W and registration). Such as: Lancair ES, ES, Super ES, or LNCE. Could also be a=20 totally different name from a Lancair. You are the builder, so you get=20 to name it. 3 - Builders S/N (doesn't have to be the S/N of the kit, but rather=20 whatever S/N you designate since you are the builder and again must=20 match the A/W and registration) It must be etched or engraved so it can still be legible after a fire. =20 You can use most any adhesive as long as the two surfaces are prepared=20 correctly. I know of at least two instances of an FAA inspection where the=20 inspector didn't approve the plate being glued on. (said it could melt=20 and the data plate could fall off) In both of those cases, two rivet heads were cut off and glued to the=20 stainless plate so it appeared it was rivited on. I think most DAR's don't care how it's attached as long as it's in the=20 proper place near the tail. (under the horizontal stab is perfect) Ron =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve been through this recently with my airplane and have learned= the=20 following: =C2=A0 1.The placard has to be fireproof and =E2=80=9Cpermanent=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0= No aluminum or=20 plastic.=C2=A0 Should be made of steel. 2.The line items and way of expressing them on the placard are specific=20 =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t recall all of them, but many placards are not co= mpletely=20 correct.=C2=A0 Your DAR may require you to =C2=A0change it if the data is= not=20 exactly accurate.=C2=A0 3. Tape is not legally acceptable and you may lose the thing in flight=20 if you try it.=C2=A0 I suggest using Hysol adhesive.=C2=A0 Sand the fusela= ge and=20 the back of the placard with 80 to 150 grit, clean with acetone and=20 bond into place with a thin layer of adhesive.=C2=A0 Make sure it=E2=80=99= s=20 completely wetted out and you need to have it under pressure against=20 the fuselage during the initial set time. =C2=A0