X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:21:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4662476 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:30:15 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 22841 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2011 16:29:39 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.235.49.247] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Data Plate Attachment X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:29:39 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <01dc01cbab63$6b9a08c0$42ce1a40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01DD_01CBAB20.5D76C8C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcurSxopsEdn4eFGTsiOBBatfKpFfAAFuOZQ Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01DD_01CBAB20.5D76C8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angier, I've been through this recently with my airplane and have learned the following: 1.The placard has to be fireproof and "permanent". No aluminum or plastic. Should be made of steel. 2.The line items and way of expressing them on the placard are specific - I don't recall all of them, but many placards are not completely correct. Your DAR may require you to change it if the data is not exactly accurate. 3. Tape is not legally acceptable and you may lose the thing in flight if you try it. I suggest using Hysol adhesive. Sand the fuselage and the back of the placard with 80 to 150 grit, clean with acetone and bond into place with a thin layer of adhesive. Make sure it's completely wetted out and you need to have it under pressure against the fuselage during the initial set time. Hope this helps, By the way, one dilemma to solve for yourself is whether to attach the plate prior to paint of after. Either one requires compromise. John Barrett Leading Edge Composites www.carbinge.com From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Greenbacks, UnLtd. Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:36 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Data Plate Attachment I'm looking for a solution to permanently attach my data plate to the airframe. The surface will have paint and clear coat which means an area the size of the plate will need to be scuffed up in order for adhesive to bond correctly. Have others done it this way? How about a very thin (5mils) or so double sided adhesive tape? Rivets are really not an option. Suggestions... Angier Ames N4ZQ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3355 - Release Date: 01/02/11 ------=_NextPart_000_01DD_01CBAB20.5D76C8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [LML] Re: Data Plate = Attachment

Angier,

 

I’ve been through this recently with my airplane and have = learned the following:

 

1.The placard has to be fireproof and “permanent”.  = No aluminum or plastic.  Should be made of = steel.

2.The line items and way of expressing them on the placard are = specific – I don’t recall all of them, but many placards are = not completely correct.  Your DAR may require you to  change = it if the data is not exactly accurate. 

3. Tape is not legally acceptable and you may lose the thing in = flight if you try it.  I suggest using Hysol adhesive.  Sand = the fuselage and the back of the placard with 80 to 150 grit, clean with = acetone and bond into place with a thin layer of adhesive.  Make = sure it’s completely wetted out and you need to have it under = pressure against the fuselage during the initial set = time.

 

Hope this helps,

 

By the way, one dilemma to solve for yourself is whether to attach = the plate prior to paint of after.  Either one requires = compromise.

 

John Barrett

Leading Edge Composites

www.carbinge.com

 

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Greenbacks, UnLtd.
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:36 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Data = Plate Attachment

 

I'm looking for a solution to permanently = attach my data plate to the airframe. The surface will have paint and = clear coat which means an area the size of the plate will need to be = scuffed up in order for adhesive to bond correctly. Have others done it = this way? How about a very thin (5mils) or so double sided adhesive = tape? Rivets are really not an = option.

Suggestions...

Angier Ames
N4ZQ
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No virus found in this = message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1191 / = Virus Database: 1435/3355 - Release Date: = 01/02/11

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