X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:21:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from webmail1.lsn.net ([66.90.138.156] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTPS id 4658116 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:50:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.90.138.156; envelope-from=mmcmanus@grandecom.net Received: from localhost (webmail1.lsn.net [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lsn.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBTKnZ5m000847 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:49:35 -0600 Received: from 204.152.235.219 ([204.152.235.219]) by webmail.grandecom.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:49:35 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <20101229144935.37592wuxxjdmhhwf@webmail.grandecom.net> X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:49:35 -0600 From: mmcmanus@grandecom.net X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] P-STATc? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.3.3 X-Originating-IP: 204.152.235.219 I had a similar symptom that took me to a much different solution. I had a problem with my GNS430W losing the GPS signal. It was =20 intermittent. Flying along and randomly the unit would display GPS =20 signal lost, wait 3 or 4 minutes and the GPS would come back up. It =20 might happen again within a few minutes or it might not happen the =20 rest of the trip. I checked the basic lose connection type stuff, and then broke down =20 and took it to an avionics shop after it happened while I was under =20 the hood on an IFR recurrency check ride. Turned out I have an early 430 unit that is 28v. There is a converter =20 box that converts my 14v system to 28v for the 430. That was failing =20 intermittently and causing the problem. They replaced this little =20 $600 converter box and all is right again. Matt McManus LNC2 360 Quoting Ross Leighton : > Hi Guys > > I=B9ve got an irritating persistent problem with my Legacy electrical syst= em. > The pilot=B9s EFIS (MGL Voyager) keeps losing its GPS fix until finally it > bombs out. Initially we suspected the instrument but MGL to their credit > have replaced it twice and still it occurs, so probably not their equipmen= t. > Then voltage spikes were suspected but after putting an oscilloscope on th= e > MGL wiring all was found to be fine. So I began casting around for other > suspects. It was suggested by MGL that static discharge into the carbon > airframe could be the cause. After reading the Lancair P-STAT document the= y > supply with their static wicks kit, I came across this passage: > > > > I decided to check the continuity of the airframe and discovered that the > outer wing panel carbon skin was not electrically connected to the inner > wing carbon skin. Similarly the elevator and rudder carbon skins were not > continuous with the rest of the airframe. So as a first step, I used some > copper braid to bond the inner and outer wings carbon skins electrically a= nd > now have continuity. But after a test flight today, same old problem. So > that leaves the elevator and rudder to do. > > However, this will be no easy task and will require removing the surfaces, > which I=B9d rather not do if there will be no improvement. If anyone has a= ny > similar experiences, I=B9d like to hear: > > 1. whether you have done anything to ensure the whole airframe is > conductive; > 2. how you electrically bonded the elevator and rudder to the rest of the > airframe (I initially thought the hinge posts took care of that but they > attach to a non-conductive glass spar); and > 3. whether any of this is worthwhile. I may be completely off the mark wit= h > my solution search for this problem. > > BTW if anyone wants a copy of that Lancair P-STAT document PM me and I=B9l= l > send it. Interesting reading. > > Thanks > > Ross Leighton > Cape Town, South Africa >