X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:54:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4654828 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:44:14 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=panelmaker@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=jnnv8oz+8t8nKU6vqmEP3V5jaZPdrxwLfwu3BicbWUYxaPra2XC8uG/6xn2hlumR; h=Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.173.71.183] (helo=DELL8300) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PWth4-00020a-5Q for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:43:38 -0500 From: "Jim Nordin" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: Bleeding brakes X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:43:39 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <42476CC374974ED680CB359061875D10@DELL8300> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AculGMj8VHADdv+nRgOtDVGC8GTlzAAAobhg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: bdfc62829fd2a80cc8ad50643b1069f8239a348a220c26098342dd26ce68515024565afd91972dcb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.173.71.183 I helped with a brake problem recently on a 360. The nylaflow came through the right side of the console about 3" above the floor and forward of the seatback about 4". When a passenger sits down, the nylaflow kinked from the weight making the brake drag. The point was the pressure on the brake end was partially maintained by the kink. So if you're trying to fill from the caliper side, it might be difficult to fill not to mention fail your brake disc and pad much earlier than expected. Examine that the nylaflow is completely "un-kinked" all the way to the cylinders. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:20 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: bleeding brakes I suggest you remove and check each connection on the Nylaflow tubing. Seems something might be blocking the flow. Fluid should flow fairly freely both ways thru the brake lines. How are you bleeding? Pressure or vacuum? I had the best luck with vacuum from the wheel caliper. Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of billhogarty Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 2:30 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] bleeding brakes Need some help with bleeding the brakes. I have replaced the nylaflow tubing in my L-IVP and I am having a problem getting fluid back into the lines. I originally started from the bottom by attempting to pump fluid up thru the fitting on the brake housing. No luck; wouldn't take the fluid....big mess. Next, I filled up the reservoir and tried to fill the lines from the top down; by pumping the hydraulic cylinders on the rudder pedals. No luck...bigger mess. It seems like I am trying to push the fluid thru a check valve, the wrong way. Funny thing is that I can remember years back when I first installed the brakes, I ran into the same exact problem. Cant remember what exactly solved the problem but history seems to be repeating itself. Guess the memory is worse than I thought. Can there be a sequence to bleeding these brakes that I'm not aware of? Happy Holidays, Bill Hogarty