X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4655398 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:34:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.180; envelope-from=jeffreyb.peterson@gmail.com Received: by wyb28 with SMTP id 28so8362411wyb.25 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:33:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=JXQoH4k049t8T2E6XBmlcYwWymzC6BsdGT1VvCwjbb2EcXuWpwk6LmrhlzpD6U+Lio 2E9s4BR35NkXwfbz4AU9NcL6eGmcb51flXXMNJ5O6Uzgwx3yGXvH8aVZinzV622DtFoE 7s1RVk7Sgs/eae5xW56kbA2xGDm5MxxhnmHm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.69 with SMTP id z47mr11562541wek.43.1293453215454; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.182.66 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:33:35 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: jbp@cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:33:35 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: bleeding brakes From: Jeff Peterson X-Original-To: Lancair mail list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641634370d7aa0498638b18 --00163641634370d7aa0498638b18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, I bleed the brakes on my 360 from the top using a vacuum pump. My procedure: The fill hole at the top of the reservoir has an 1/8 inch NPT thread. Normally a NPT plug with a small hole goes there. Take out the plug and put in an NPT-to-hose-nipple, and connect a vacuum pump via tygon tubing. In my plane the brake plumbing inside the cockpit is "nylaflow" tubing which is translucent, so you can see bubbles vs red brake fluid. Turn on the pump, and watch the bubbles grow to about 100 times their original size. Most of the greatly expanded air makes it to the reservoir, bubbles up and ends up passing into the pump. With vacuum applied the calipers open about 1/4 inch. Since the motion of the bubbles eventually stops (1 min) you know there is no leak in the system. After the bubbles stop moving disconnect the hose from the nipple and let air back in. You can watch the few remaining bubbles shrink. Pump the peddles to push the calipers back into position. Repeated this process maybe 5 times. Top up the fluid level in the reservoir at the end. Process takes maybe 15 min. Not a drop of fluid on the floor. You don't need a fancy pump, any that is adequate for vacuum bagging will work for bleeding. My pedals are very firm now. -- Jeff Peterson N273CK L360 --00163641634370d7aa0498638b18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill,

I bleed the brakes on my 360 fro= m the top using a vacuum pump.


My procedure:

The fill hole at the top of the reservoir has an=20 1/8 inch NPT thread.
Normally a NPT plug with a small hole goes there. =

Take=20 out the plug and put in an NPT-to-hose-nipple, and connect
a=20 vacuum pump via tygon tubing.

In my plane the brake plumbing=20 inside the=20 cockpit is "nylaflow" tubing which is
translucent, so you ca= n see=20 bubbles vs red brake fluid.

Turn on the pump, and=20 watch the bubbles grow to about 100 times their original size.

Most o= f the greatly expanded air makes it to the=20 reservoir, bubbles up
and ends up passing into the pump.

W= ith =20 vacuum applied the calipers open about 1/4 inch.

Since the=20 motion of the bubbles eventually stops
(1 min) you know there is=20 no leak in the system. =A0After the bubbles
stop moving disconnect the= hose from the nipple and let air=20 back in.
You can watch the few remaining bubbles shrink.
Pump the pe= ddles to push the calipers back into position.

Repeated this process maybe 5 times. =A0=A0

Top up the fluid level in th= e reservoir at the end.

Process=20 takes maybe 15 min. Not a drop of=20 fluid on the floor.

You don't need a fancy pump, any that is adeq= uate for vacuum bagging will work for bleeding.

My pedals are very = firm now.
--
Jeff Peterson
N273CK L360


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