X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web57204.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.220] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4648610 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:26:41 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.252.111.220; envelope-from=lancair33@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55902 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2010 21:26:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jlmh+xrlcTjcZccggnNSFObNCgfWS87yTPpd5Ooc2FRzO88JMNesK3zD3UyEP399C0w0ow9ROsx9SUP9VUTDldJ0pduqaVjF3kqMlJBP/P/NUI55kJV/8gLGrUVWTKXdeWzknbjew7o2quf9GLBWdb3Lxo2bf6qltEPzY/SuIBk=; X-Original-Message-ID: <552926.55690.qm@web57204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mVFYCboVM1lUp4bwVysn6kq4IKEdV.GRrKO3mXGtptSprJ8 vQcZ4VvfGi61lkQ0QsKMW1mwNF23pJulI4e2qR0GFSN6khZZyh72AxMBXUnY R9JNj1H49CPG_D.TRDH2.9b0Vw0qkHEO5JaVGsYfSbOM7FTRiS3EEgcNbHwP uRupOVn.mJ5AQYQ5oE3Wx0GrU8cY_dR.BtRLrB9rskN8ZiXr17.p.6ZlsKDh 9YpoUImCooLFi9IywJRvNSX6OsvSzuz8Q8U24nYil6q.041Q9Vo8MXUMvs.Q 0GFXDRxRVZEWdHhgVxEq5Tx1bQyXQ3KbqnEv6nrDd1PVqKUzKAohccq1Mb7H WKcRHPKfKCz0_D7G8TlyV7QY2DJV3PSLdRKt7_6o5inA- Received: from [67.66.143.175] by web57204.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:26:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) From: m miriani Subject: Re: [LML] Class 1, do you need it? X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-57052539-1292880364=:55690" --0-57052539-1292880364=:55690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your AME should be able to pick up the phone and contact aeromedical in okl= ahoma =0Acity=A0with the information you have provided and get verbal autho= rization for =0Ayour medical unless there is some other informatiion not pr= ovided in this =0Ahistory. You do not need AOPA for this. =0A=0A=0APS=A0 If= you were my patient I would have you obtain the same tests to evaluate =0A= your PVC's because of your age, the fact that it is new onset, and that you= =0Amight have underlying coronary artery disease causing them. Be thankful= that =0Ayour tests ruled this out.=A0 Your lesson is not that you didnt ne= ed a class one =0A(which you obviously did not=A0need)=0A=0AMatt Miriani=0A= AME=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: paul miller =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Sun, December 19, 2010 6:= 09:33 PM=0ASubject: [LML] Class 1, do you need it?=0A=0AI learned a lesson.= =A0 I've always had Class 1 medicals since I was a teen, just =0Abecause.= =A0 I never thought about it.=A0 =A0 I'm 55 now.=A0 When I turned 50 I had = EKG =0Atracings as part of Class 1 and never had a problem.=A0 This past Ma= y I had 2 PVCs =0Ashow up on the chart (premature ventricular contractions)= which by themselves is =0Anot necessarily a problem.=A0 I was told by the = AME that FAA allows 3 per minute =0Aand the chart was submitted.=A0 You kno= w the result.=A0 It is now Dec-2010, 7 months =0Alater and I still can't fl= y.=A0 The FAA requested an intensive 2-day nuclear trace =0Awith CT scannin= g, treadmill and EKG tracings and eventually I had the medical =0Apulled in= July pending these test results.=A0 Back in Canada this summer I was =0Aab= le to get the tests done for free in August (no political statement being m= ade =0Ahere) under our provincial health care plan.=A0 It took a month befo= re I realized =0Athe data was not sent to the FAA by my local doc so I had = to go back and request =0Acopies of DVDs of imaging, photocopies of all EKG= s and submit them to Oklahoma =0ACity myself.=A0 Through the months of Sept= ember, October and November the data sat =0Ain transit and then at FAA pend= ing "security clearance", inbox processing, =0Aevaluation and finally (afte= r calling every day) I received another letter =0ADec-13 requesting an Echo= cardiagram for further information.=A0 I did that this =0Aweek up in Jax fo= r $220 cash.=A0 In both clinics there was no problem identified.=A0 =0AThe = FAA continues to tell me that my medical is not denied but it will not yet = =0Areissue the certificate.=A0 Requesting a 3rd class at this point will no= t work =0Aeither.=A0 AOPA is assisting.=A0 My lesson is that if you don't n= eed a class 1, then =0Adon't bother.=A0 When I told my friends they laughed= when they found I had applied =0Afor a Class 1.=A0 AOPA said it was an inv= itation for trouble as well.=A0 Why am I =0Athe last to know this stuff? Ma= ybe this will help someone in the future.=0A=0APaul M=0ALegacy=0A=0A=0A--= =0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.h= tml=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-57052539-1292880364=:55690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Your AME should be able to pick up the phone and conta= ct aeromedical in oklahoma city with the information you have provided= and get verbal authorization for your medical unless there is some other i= nformatiion not provided in this history. You do not need AOPA for this. =0A
 
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PS  If you were my patient I would hav= e you obtain the same tests to evaluate your PVC's because of your age, the= fact that it is new onset, and that you might have underlying coronary art= ery disease causing them. Be thankful that your tests ruled this out. = Your lesson is not that you didnt need a class one (which you obviously di= d not need)
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=0AFrom: paul miller &= lt;paul@tbm700.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 6:09:33 PM
Subject: [LML] Class 1, do you need it?

I le= arned a lesson.  I've always had Class 1 medicals since I was a teen, = just because.  I never thought about it.    I'm 55 now. = ; When I turned 50 I had EKG tracings as part of Class 1 and never had a pr= oblem.  This past May I had 2 PVCs show up on the chart (premature ven= tricular contractions) which by themselves is not necessarily a problem.&nb= sp; I was told by the AME that FAA allows 3 per minute and the chart was su= bmitted.  You know the result.  It is now Dec-2010, 7 months late= r and I still can't fly.  The FAA requested an intensive 2-day nuclear= trace with CT scanning, treadmill and EKG tracings and eventually I had the medi= cal pulled in July pending these test results.  Back in Canada this su= mmer I was able to get the tests done for free in August (no political stat= ement being made here) under our provincial health care plan.  It took= a month before I realized the data was not sent to the FAA by my local doc= so I had to go back and request copies of DVDs of imaging, photocopies of = all EKGs and submit them to Oklahoma City myself.  Through the months = of September, October and November the data sat in transit and then at FAA = pending "security clearance", inbox processing, evaluation and finally (aft= er calling every day) I received another letter Dec-13 requesting an Echoca= rdiagram for further information.  I did that this week up in Jax for = $220 cash.  In both clinics there was no problem identified.  The= FAA continues to tell me that my medical is not denied but it will not yet reissue the certificate.  Requesting a 3rd class at this poin= t will not work either.  AOPA is assisting.  My lesson is that if= you don't need a class 1, then don't bother.  When I told my friends = they laughed when they found I had applied for a Class 1.  AOPA said i= t was an invitation for trouble as well.  Why am I the last to know th= is stuff? Maybe this will help someone in the future.

Paul M
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