X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with SMTP id 4638839 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:09:54 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 2147 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2010 01:09:17 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.235.49.247] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Performance Engines X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:09:15 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <003101cb9a62$5cddbfa0$16993ee0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB9A1F.4EBA7FA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcuYnkro2vkTOsBjRGOaCrJXzfUuQQBwwPIg Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB9A1F.4EBA7FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny, =20 I agree with your reasoning, but have a little bit of data to add. I = just finished a complete overhaul of my Lycoming IO 360 on my Beech Sierra = and it is costing ~$25K. It would have been more but the existing mags are better than what can be purchased and the fuel control servo is being = reused because it only has about 50 hours worth of use on it. It also is a lot less than a replacement engine and a lot less than a Lycoming factory rebuild. I shopped around and am pretty sure I am getting about as good = a bang for my buck as I could. =20 The cost includes remounting the engine and replacing all the hoses = etc. Lord Engine mounts alone were ~$1200. =20 It boggles my mind to recall that I purchased this airplane about 25 = years ago for $22K. Go figure. =20 Bottom line you may be surprised if you do have to rebuild the engine. = =20 Good luck, =20 John Barrett =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Danny Miller Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:35 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Performance Engines =20 I=92ve heard through the grapevine (reliable FAA resources) that PE is = now under investigation by the FAA but I haven=92t been able to verify it. = Does anybody know for a fact that the previously posted indiscretions by PE = have been reported to the FAA? Feel free to ping me offline if you=92d like = to keep it confidential. I=92m looking at buying a 360 with one of their engines but with all = I=92ve read lately, I=92m reluctant to make an offer that doesn=92t account for the = strong possibility of a failed engine. Conservative wisdom and practice would indicate an offer of reduced value to tear down the current engine for inspection and possible O/H. This would likely be $10k to $15k if I do = it myself, depending on what it may need. Danny Miller Still searching for an LNC2 N 38=B0 43' 27" W 77=B0 30' 38" _____ =20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3291 - Release Date: 12/01/10 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CB9A1F.4EBA7FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [LML] Performance Engines

Danny,

 

I agree with your reasoning, but have a little bit of data to add.=A0 = I just finished a complete overhaul of my Lycoming =A0IO 360 on my Beech = Sierra and it is costing ~$25K.=A0 It would have been more but the = existing mags are better than what can be purchased and the fuel control = servo is being reused because it only has about 50 hours worth of use on = it.=A0 It also is a lot less than a replacement engine and a lot less = than a Lycoming factory rebuild.=A0 I shopped around and am pretty sure = I am getting about as good a bang for my buck as I = could.

 

The cost includes =A0remounting the engine and replacing all the = hoses etc.=A0 Lord Engine mounts alone were = ~$1200.

 

It boggles my mind to recall that I purchased this airplane about 25 = years ago for $22K.=A0 Go figure.

 

Bottom line you may be surprised if you do have to rebuild=A0 the = engine.=A0

 

Good luck,

 

John Barrett

 

 

 

 

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Danny Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:35 = PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] = Performance Engines

 

I’ve heard through the = grapevine (reliable FAA resources) that PE is now under investigation by = the FAA but I haven’t been able to verify it.  Does anybody = know for a fact that the previously posted indiscretions by PE have been = reported to the FAA?  Feel free to ping me offline if you’d = like to keep it confidential.

I’m looking at = buying a 360 with one of their engines but with all I’ve read = lately, I’m reluctant to make an offer that doesn’t account = for the strong possibility of a failed engine.  Conservative wisdom = and practice would indicate an offer of reduced value to tear down the = current engine for inspection and possible O/H.  This would likely = be $10k to $15k if I do it myself, depending on what it may = need.

Danny Miller

Still searching for = an LNC2

N 38=B0 43' 27"

W 77=B0 = 30' 38"


No virus = found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1170 / = Virus Database: 426/3291 - Release Date: 12/01/10
Internal Virus = Database is out of date.

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