X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4576401 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:18:40 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.70; envelope-from=artbertolina@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=kvLk4dJK+6kjRFyHIpg8BwjQiyyEB+A0GBiQsUgEowDkcCmM0SUlzvNslCRYQgm5; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [12.44.144.252] (helo=LAPTOP2) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PGtVq-00010n-Oz for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:17:54 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <65940BA4DFAE480ABAC945F5478A24C6@LAPTOP2> From: "Art Bertolina" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 Legacy Performance questions X-Original-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:17:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB8228.E553ACC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-ELNK-Trace: 1c57f4aab304e4a6fc8cc707cfd6285a4d2b10475b571120aa51a6d0862f0d87bb0822372a76973b85709c4405726f5b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 12.44.144.252 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB8228.E553ACC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Craig When it comes to engines look for something that Barrett did in Tulsa, they build a great engine, on time and on budget with great after sale service Art ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Karich=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 Legacy Performance questions I wouldn't trust any Continental engines done by preformance. Lycon = not much better. Just my opinion On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Craig Jimenez = wrote: I just joined the list and am considering buying a completed Legacy. = I make frequent flights from Oklahoma City to Phoenix. Our Mooney M20J = has the range to make the 720 nm trip non-stop with 1-hr reserve against = 25-knot headwinds. I'd like to retain that capability, but upgrade = speed from the Mooney's 150-160 KTAS to 220 KTAS or better. =20 Questions: I see a service ceiling of 18,000' published by Lancair. Is that a = legally binding limitation? =20 What's time to climb SL to 12,000' and rate of climb through roughly = 8, 12, and 16,000' at max weight? Are the following numbers credible for a 10:1 compression IO-550 = with one Light Speed Plasma ignition? =20 KTAS gph 263 19.8 (flat out) 253 17.1 241 14.5 : : 180 7.8 For a fairly stock IO-550N installation (e.g. 8.5:1) at 8,000', what = numbers would you see LOP, with and without electronic ignition? Since much of my trip is above 8,000', what would the above = performance numbers be at 12, 16, and 18,000'? Apart from keeping CHTs cool, what pilot and maintenance techniques = will increase engine life? How many cylinders would I expect to replace in 2000 hours of flying = careful LOP? Who does the best pre-purchase inspections? Currently there appear = to be Legacys (Legacies?) for sale in ID, TX, etc. What time-frame did you guys start seeing problems with Performance = Engines? Any thoughts on Lycon engines? -- Craig in Oklahoma City ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CB8228.E553ACC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Craig
When it comes to engines look for = something that=20 Barrett
did in Tulsa, they build a great = engine, on time=20 and on
budget with great after sale = service
Art
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don = Karich=20
Sent: Thursday, November 11, = 2010 12:49=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 Legacy=20 Performance questions

I wouldn't trust any  Continental engines done by=20 preformance. Lycon not much better. Just my opinion

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Craig = Jimenez <jimenez.craig@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
I just joined the list and am considering buying a completed=20 Legacy.  I make frequent flights from Oklahoma City to = Phoenix. =20 Our Mooney M20J has the range to make the 720 nm trip non-stop with = 1-hr=20 reserve against 25-knot headwinds.  I'd like to retain that = capability,=20 but upgrade speed from the Mooney's 150-160 KTAS to 220 KTAS or=20 better.  
 
Questions:
 
I see a service ceiling of 18,000' published by Lancair.  = Is that=20 a legally binding limitation?  
 
What's time to climb SL to 12,000' and rate of climb through = roughly 8,=20 12, and 16,000' at max weight?
 
Are the following numbers credible for a 10:1 = compression IO-550=20 with one Light Speed Plasma ignition? 
   KTAS   gph
  =  263   19.8=20 (flat out)
   253   17.1
 =20  241   14.5
   =20  :        :
 =20  180    7.8
 
For a fairly stock IO-550N installation (e.g. 8.5:1) at 8,000', = what=20 numbers would you see LOP, with and without electronic = ignition?
 
Since much of my trip is above 8,000', what would the above = performance=20 numbers be at 12, 16, and 18,000'?
 
Apart from keeping CHTs cool, what pilot and maintenance = techniques=20 will increase engine life?
 
How many cylinders would I expect to replace in 2000 hours of = flying=20 careful LOP?
 
Who does the best pre-purchase inspections?   = Currently there=20 appear to be Legacys (Legacies?) for sale in ID, TX, etc.
 
What time-frame did you guys start seeing problems with = Performance=20 Engines?  Any thoughts on Lycon engines?
 
--
Craig in Oklahoma City
 
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