X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:54:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4364808 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:06:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.41; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o5LD65ob019528 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:06:05 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.e87.be6771 (45470) for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m20.mail.aol.com (magic-m20.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.193]) by cia-mc06.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC063-b19e4c1f63b433a; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:05:56 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <58dc2.12baf3ec.3950bdb4@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:05:56 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Eyeball Air Hoses X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_58dc2.12baf3ec.3950bdb4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 67.175.87.113 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.193 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_58dc2.12baf3ec.3950bdb4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, OK. I have the 3/4" lines and I mounted eyeballs on both the NACA and the panel. Plus the passenger NACA has another 1/2" takeoff that goes to the avionics stack. The NACA mounted vents are used to keep the lower body cool as heat will eventually make its way through the firewall and the nose wheel well even though the areas are covered with insulation. When fully open the vents can create a tornado in the cockpit, reordering a nice stack of charts and plates. The only drawback to those NACAs is the admission of NOISE - prop, engine, slipstream and eagles screaming to get out of the way. BTW, vent efficiency is highly dependent on adequate cockpit air exit. At 180 KIAS my cockpit is 300 feet higher than the aircraft altitude and the exiting air is mainly down the elevator console/push rod tunnel and out the openings in the vertical stabilizer that provide for elevator movement. There is probably some canopy seal leakage also. In the pix I sent you can see the foot well eyeballs in the bottom of the left and right panel pix (the pix quality wasn't that great after it got cut down passing thru the internet. It was 15C outside and the pilot panel eyeball was almost closed and the passenger side was open but not pointed at me. Also, that tube shown in the center console pic is used to reach the foot well eyeballs for adjustment. Grayhawk PS I've flown in AZ - if you wear a snakeskin covered baseball cap and a silver wristband you stay cool. In a message dated 6/21/2010 7:21:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rwolf99@aol.com writes: Greyhawk - Yes, my eyeball air hoses are 1.5 inch SCAT. Reports from earlier Lancair builders suggested that the panel-mounted air vents provided insufficient air. Many builders mounted the eyeball vents directly to the sidewall NACA ducts to get more air. But you know all this -- you were part of the early crowd. The eyeball vents from Lancair came with a cap for a tiny, tiny SCAT tube coming in from the side. Maybe 3/4 inch. Small. I bought adapters from Jon Pastusek (also available from aircraft spruce) which allowed a 1.5 inch SCAT tube to go directly to the back of the vent -- no 90 degree turn required. I hope to have plenty of air. If it's too much, I'll close it partway. But I live in Arizona now and I suspect that I'll have it wide open. - Rob Wolf --part1_58dc2.12baf3ec.3950bdb4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rob,
 
OK.  I have the 3/4" lines and I mounted eyeballs on both the NA= CA and=20 the panel. Plus the passenger NACA has another 1/2" takeoff that goes to= the=20 avionics stack.  The NACA mounted vents are used to keep the lower bo= dy=20 cool as heat will eventually make its way through the firewall and the nos= e=20 wheel well even though the areas are covered with insulation.  When= fully=20 open the vents can create a tornado in the cockpit, reordering a nice stac= k of=20 charts and plates.  The only drawback to those NACAs is the admission= of=20 NOISE - prop, engine, slipstream and eagles screaming to get out of the=20 way.
 
BTW, vent efficiency is highly dependent on adequate cockpit air=20 exit.  At 180 KIAS my cockpit is 300 feet higher than the aircraft al= titude=20 and the exiting air is mainly down the elevator console/push rod tunnel an= d out=20 the openings in the vertical stabilizer that provide for elevator=20 movement.  There is probably some canopy seal leakage also.
 
In the pix I sent you can see the foot well eyeballs in the bottom of= the=20 left and right panel pix (the pix quality wasn't that great after it got= cut=20 down passing thru the internet.  It was 15C outside and the pilot pan= el=20 eyeball was almost closed and the passenger side was open but not pointed= at=20 me.  Also, that tube shown in the center console pic is used to reach= the=20 foot well eyeballs for adjustment.
 
Grayhawk
 
PS I've flown in AZ - if you wear a snakeskin covered baseball cap an= d a=20 silver wristband you stay cool.
 
In a message dated 6/21/2010 7:21:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 rwolf99@aol.com writes:
Greyhawk -
 
Yes, my eyeball air hoses are 1.5 inch SCAT.  Reports from ear= lier=20 Lancair builders suggested that the panel-mounted air vents provided=20 insufficient air.  Many builders mounted the eyeball vents directly= to=20 the sidewall NACA ducts to get more air.  But you know all this --= you=20 were part of the early crowd.
 
The eyeball vents from Lancair came with a cap for a  tin= y,=20 tiny SCAT tube coming in from the side.  Maybe 3/4 inch. =20 Small.  I bought adapters from Jon Pastusek (also available from ai= rcraft=20 spruce) which allowed a 1.5 inch SCAT tube to go directly to the back of= the=20 vent -- no 90 degree turn required.  I hope to have plenty of air.<= /DIV>
 
If it's too much, I'll close it partway.  But I live in Arizon= a now=20 and I suspect that I'll have it wide open.
 
- Rob=20 Wolf

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