X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:20:51 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4363675 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:05:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.125; envelope-from=sdfields@austin.rr.com X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=w1shWbTWTAfAQ6jIUag4hBIbd8wqGnfzh/ne7nEp+Po= c=1 sm=0 a=uSFpHTXhXTYA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=i19MFbyK5lgPmZ8mDfEwKg==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=XMy9Kcj8AAAA:8 a=mQj8_5Y0HYxj8LVx8xIA:9 a=z2i5H5RPZQ9nHePtKtoA:7 a=SeY1UPAOQvHZ-F3-b7Cz7-uBAM0A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=KlNygyfYIlSBDhqw:21 a=nDqPxnf12VWL4vvo:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=vVMowAm3exW2NOtZIX0A:7 a=WcTGXBsSNj4PWPOiXFhsYBjHrFgA:4 a=QJIP64lGCh4A:10 a=WU5cWfD0ivVcW-2x:21 a=cYhYet5a47qrCQ0J:21 a=i19MFbyK5lgPmZ8mDfEwKg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.177.6.53 Received: from [72.177.6.53] ([72.177.6.53:4558] helo=D6F15391) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 3F/5D-18224-9577D1C4; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:05:14 +0000 From: "Stan Fields" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions? X-Original-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:07:13 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <003501cb101d$4d0e7440$e72b5cc0$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CB0FF3.64386C40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcsP4eOORFK3KVp6Q1a2QFmHGg40eQAOteQg Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CB0FF3.64386C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to Garmin, the GPSMap 496 has a 5Hz GPS refresh rate which = provides near real time panel displays. So, could this be used to fly in = the event of a complete avionics buss crash. I don=E2=80=99t know - = but I like the idea. =20 Stan =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = vtailjeff@aol.com Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:02 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions? =20 Stan, =20 what are you "backing up" with a 496? =20 Jeff I like the idea of the Garmin GPSMAP 496 as a =E2=80=9Cfailsafe=E2=80=9D = backup.=20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Stan Fields To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 3:00 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions? Now here is a guy that knows how to shop! =20 Steve you have a great panel. Looks like everything is backed up and = then some. I like the idea of the Garmin GPSMAP 496 as a = =E2=80=9Cfailsafe=E2=80=9D backup.=20 =20 Stan www.lancairlegacybuilder.com =20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [ = mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve Colwell Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:08 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions? =20 "Is AirVenture a good place to buy avionics? " =20 YES! I shopped very hard for several months prior to Airventure so I = knew what the avionics vendors recommended by the various builder = websites would quote me. I decided to hold off for Airventure since new = products are introduced and special offers are made by manufacturers.=20 =20 I made about 12 copies of my entire list of avionics and dropped them = off at vendor booths asking them to quote on anything they could supply. = I also told them I would not come back to them and ask them to beat a = competitor's price so they knew if they had the best price they would = get the order. I was amazed that the "package deal" got me an extra 10% = or so better price than I had found prior to the show. This was from = several vendors. =20 =20 One more thing, I don't recommend Sarasota Avionics. It was a major = hassle doing business with them. Aircraft Spruce was the #2 bidder by a = small amount. =20 =20 A few comments on my panel. I wanted a dual efis, single panel mount = nav-com (back up is a Icom handheld with an antenna pigtail that plugs = into the belly mounted com antenna), everything grouped for best view = from the left seat, backup attitude indicator with its own battery, = garmin 396 with its own battery, altimeter/airspeed backup and a chart = box plus logical layout of switches and warning lights. With the able = assistance of Tom Gourley this is what we came up with and Tom built. I = love it. =20 Steve Colwell Legacy =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CB0FF3.64386C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

According to Garmin, the GPSMap 496 has a 5Hz GPS refresh = rate which provides near real time panel displays. So, could this be used to fly in = the event of a complete avionics buss crash.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know - = =C2=A0but I like the idea.

 

Stan

 

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = vtailjeff@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:02 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Glass Panel = Suggestions?

 

Stan,

 

what are you "backing up" with a = 496?

 

Jeff

I like the idea of the Garmin GPSMAP 496 as a = =E2=80=9Cfailsafe=E2=80=9D backup.

 

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Stan Fields <sdfields@austin.rr.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 3:00 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions?

Now here is a guy that knows how to shop!<= o:p>

 

Steve you have a great panel. Looks like everything is = backed up and then some.  I like the idea of the Garmin GPSMAP 496 as a = =E2=80=9Cfailsafe=E2=80=9D backup.

 

Stan

 

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Steve Colwell
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:08 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Legacy Glass Panel Suggestions?<= o:p>

 

"Is AirVenture a good place to buy avionics? = "

 

YES!  I shopped very hard for several months prior to Airventure so I knew what the avionics vendors recommended by the = various builder websites would quote me.  I decided to hold off for = Airventure since new products are introduced and special offers are made by = manufacturers.

 

I made about 12 copies of my entire list of avionics and = dropped them off at vendor booths asking them to quote on anything they could supply.  I also told them I would not come back to them and ask = them to beat a competitor's price so they knew if they had the best price they = would get the order.  I was amazed that the "package deal" got = me an extra 10% or so better price than I had found prior to the show.  = This was from several vendors.  

 

One more thing, I don't recommend Sarasota Avionics.  = It was a major hassle doing business with them.  Aircraft Spruce was the = #2 bidder by a small amount.  

 

A few comments on my panel.  I wanted a dual efis, = single panel mount nav-com (back up is a Icom handheld with an antenna pigtail = that plugs into the belly mounted com antenna), everything grouped for best = view from the left seat, backup attitude indicator with its own battery, = garmin 396 with its own battery, altimeter/airspeed backup and a chart box plus = logical layout of switches and warning lights.   With the able = assistance of Tom Gourley this is what we came up with and Tom built.  I love = it.

 

Steve Colwell   Legacy

 

 

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