X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:01:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from a2s34.a2hosting.com ([74.126.18.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTPS id 4363184 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:51:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.126.18.170; envelope-from=lorn@dynacomm.us DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=dynacomm.us; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:Subject:Cc:To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=QnHcQAlDnVa66UnYrxogJ3Z4Md37SSuJNyJzdO+kveblX6LU/q/SH+hrh7Gsy+KxTvAkGmgdm6ZOUcAGeAnd4unW2su3yofB/QHZwvLp/IJ0bo/221LsQzJow9SgpQNY; Received: from c-68-41-117-55.hsd1.mi.comcast.net ([68.41.117.55] helo=[192.168.1.130]) by a2s34.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPyRt-0001oX-4X; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:51:05 -0400 From: Lorn H Olsen Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-148034877 X-Original-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:51:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Odyssey batteries with very limited warranties X-Original-Cc: lancair-esp@ustek.com, Wolfgang Franke , Martha Jane Jones X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Original-Message-Id: <728C54D1-9DC7-44E3-9BD0-1B46EEF50846@dynacomm.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s34.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dynacomm.us --Apple-Mail-1-148034877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert, I purchased an BC100-1 from B&C Speciality Products in 2003. The BC100-1 = is actually an Odyssey PC925 battery. It was recommended by the engineer = at B&C because, he said: "I have less customer complaints with these = batteries.". I do not have a B&C alternator or voltage regulator, = although from what I have read and my experience with them, I would = recommend B&C. Before the B&C battery, I had to replace both Gill and Concorde = batteries within 6 months to one year. In 2005, I forgot to turn off my ignition for 7 days. The battery was = really dead. I was in New Orleans and was going to fly home to Detroit. = I put a car jumper on the battery and hand propped the plane. Initially = the charge was 10 amps. In the 5 hour flight back to Detroit, the charge = rate went up to 60 amps and a CB popped. I waited 15 minutes and reset = it. A few minutes later it popped again. I reset it again, etc. By the = end of the flight, I was back down to a 5 amp charge. When parked, I = always keep a 1.25 amp Battery Tender on the plane. In 2008, I ran the battery dead again. It was not as bad this time. Today, I am still using the same battery. I have been having a problem = starting the airplane when cold. The battery will still crank the plane = for 3 to 5 minutes with my high amp SkyTec starter. Odyssey batteries are without a doubt, in my mind, the best batteries = made. If your Odyssey batteries are unusable after anything less than 5 years, = I believe that your charging amperage is to high or to low. You may also = try using a Battery Tender or Odyssey's custom charger. Lorn > From: "Lancair" > Date: June 18, 2010 4:00:03 PM EDT >=20 > Just had two of my four Odyssey PC680 batteries crap out after 2 years = of service although an identical set on the other buss are fine. I = called the local Odyssey/EnerSys dealer and found that they will not = handle warranty claims for batteries bought elsewhere. I phoned Odyssey = and learned that is a common problem. Kinda like a local Ford dealer = refusing to work on Fords purchased elsewhere. Just be aware that for = warranty replacements you may have to deal directly with the factory in = MO (who are actually nice folks - they just have some weasels for = dealers). > =20 > Robert M. Simon > ES-P N301ES -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan --Apple-Mail-1-148034877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii B&C Speciality = Products in 2003. The BC100-1 is actually an Odyssey = PC925 battery. It was recommended by the engineer at B&C = because, he said: "I have less customer complaints with these = batteries.". I do not have a B&C alternator or voltage regulator, = although from what I have read and my experience with them, I would = recommend B&C.

Before the B&C battery, = I had to replace both Gill and Concorde batteries within 6 months to one = year.

In 2005, I forgot to turn off my ignition = for 7 days. The battery was really dead. I was in New Orleans and was = going to fly home to Detroit. I put a car jumper on the battery and hand = propped the plane. Initially the charge was 10 amps. In the 5 hour = flight back to Detroit, the charge rate went up to 60 amps and a CB = popped. I waited 15 minutes and reset it. A few minutes later it popped = again. I reset it again, etc. By the end of the flight, I was back down = to a 5 amp charge. When parked, I always keep a 1.25 amp Battery Tender on the = plane.

In 2008, I ran the battery dead again. = It was not as bad this time.

Today, I am still = using the same battery. I have been having a problem starting the = airplane when cold. The battery will still crank the plane for 3 to 5 = minutes with my high amp SkyTec = starter.

Odyssey batteries are without a doubt, = in my mind, the best batteries made.

If = your Odyssey batteries are unusable after anything less than 5 = years, I believe that your charging amperage is to high or to low. You = may also try using a Battery Tender or Odyssey's custom = charger.

Lorn

From: "Lancair" <lancair-esp@ustek.com>
Dat= e: June 18, 2010 4:00:03 PM EDT

Just had two of = my four Odyssey PC680 batteries crap out after 2 years of service = although an identical set on the other buss are fine. =  I called the local Odyssey/EnerSys dealer and found that they = will not handle warranty claims for batteries bought elsewhere.  I = phoned Odyssey and learned that is a common problem.  Kinda = like a local Ford dealer refusing to work on Fords purchased elsewhere. =  Just be aware that for warranty replacements you may have to = deal directly with the factory in MO (who are actually nice folks - they = just have some weasels for dealers).
 
Robert M. = Simon
ES-P N301ES

Lorn H. = 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, = Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 = hrs, N31161, Y47, SE = Michigan

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