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Subject: Transfer Of Ownership/HPAT training.
From: John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net>
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Gents:

My experience with HPAT has been very positive.  Monday and Tuesday of =
this week, I hammered out my HPAT training for Insurance, a Biennial =
Flight Review, and an Instrument Proficiency Check. =20

I worked with HPAT's Pat Franzen, who in addition to being a really nice =
guy, is an expert and knowledgeable pilot and instructor.  Far more =
importantly, a large part of Pat's 11,000 hours of flying have been in =
Lancairs.

His time in Lancair aircraft is what sets him apart as a trainer and, I =
believe makes HPAT very special.  Guys like Pat don't just teach you to =
generically fly generic airplanes.  They teach you to fly Lancairs, with =
all their associated instrumentation and issues.  For me personally, =
this is super valuable.  I can do things with my avionics today that I =
didn't know could be done 3 days ago. =20

In addition to airplane and systems and avionics knowledge, guys like =
Pat have seen things go wrong, repeatedly, in these high tech, complex, =
leading edge aircraft.  We get to learn, once again, from their Lancair =
specific knowledge.  We can benefit from the scary things they have been =
through.  It's a huge benefit in my mind.  =20

John Hafen
N413AJ  LIVP 230 hours


On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

> Kevin,
> I assume that you will be getting your instrument ticket thru HPAT as =
well.
> You do realize that an ordinary, run of the mill, FAA certificated
> instructor will not be qualified to adequately instruct you in =
instrument
> flying if you plan to use that training in a Lancair.  These Lancair =
planes
> are so different from an ordinary plane that it takes a super special
> instructor to prevent your imminent death in one of them!
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> There is the possibility though, that you could get an ordinary, run =
of the
> mill, FAA certificated instructor and pay him about 3 or 4 times the =
going
> rate for the instruction and you would be OK.
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> Just my opinion on all this BS.  YMMV.
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> Bill B
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of =
Kevin
> Stallard
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:55 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Re: Transfer Of Ownership (Inspections, Training..)
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> My feeling is that perhaps the training requirement helps Lancair
> deflect lawsuits and helps them be in a stronger position when sued.  =
My
> opinion is that the training and the inspection help create a paper
> trail that helps satisfy the jurors, judges and lawyers.  It can't =
hurt
> to have it if someone brings a suit against you or your estate.=20
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> Also, I see it has giving insurance companies more reason to continue =
to
> insure us as a group. =20
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> I know it is expensive, believe me, I'm coming to the end of my build
> and with insurance and training I'm looking at spending $15k (I still
> need to get my instrument ticket).  It isn't pleasant, but Peter and =
his
> merry band of trainers are worth every penny in my opinion.  I'm glad =
we
> have them and I don't have a problem paying for their experience and
> knowledge.  You can't get a better mentor. =20
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> Even though we live in a far more civilized time, it is still survival
> of the fittest.  So, be fit, and survive, and be thankful that people
> out there have made it their mission in life to help others survive.
> Don't stop learning and don't become resistant for paying for the best
> knowledge and training you can acquire.  It's one of the ways we can
> keep it around.
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> Just my $0.02 worth...
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> Kevin
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