X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.212.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with ESMTP id 4348145 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:37:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.52; envelope-from=mwsletten@gmail.com Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1948601vws.25 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=Aca/nD4kHXC8L19jjpeDLx0KJeO0q/bIdzF8biVlHJf6eKn/9b0H7O/0uHWP7cG5hP Rovkkwv4t/zTidOFk7LnCFNTwXGqBHqt7bBiaqoJnUPXdVTzLCCEQOVMv2mx2mXBRfAK GwBvOyPOxenZKFJJQONsm5qp3gOfggFhrct3o= Received: by 10.220.122.1 with SMTP id j1mr3846883vcr.119.1276605384307; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:36:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from MarkDesktop ([208.65.125.151]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d7sm5772019vch.22.2010.06.15.05.36.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Sletten" X-Original-To: "'paul miller'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Transfer Of Ownership X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:36:21 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <003301cb0c87$5d995800$18cc0800$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcsL3SGfPkYP15bgSHK8L6JkDxpgdwAqTV6w Content-Language: en-us Paul, No one, least of all me, has denigrated the service Lancair Inc has provided its customers. In fact, I believe I've said Lancair Inc has responded promptly and satisfactorily to all my queries. I'm curious, however, that you were able to obtain hardware from Lancair Inc free of charge. There have been any number of 'product improvements' to my Legacy kit since I began work on it lo those many years ago; I've never been offered any hardware to perform those product improvements for free. If it is now Lancair Inc's policy to provide free hardware for future product improvements, then I agree with you that a $300 transfer fee is indeed cheap. Mark Sletten -----Original Message----- From: paul miller [mailto:paul@tbm700.com] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:18 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Transfer Of Ownership Mark, pardon me for jumping in on your comment. I just received the Legacy nose gear bolts (SB 6655) part of a product improvement. They were free. I did not pay $300 when I bought the completed airplane from the builder. Overall, I think the Lancair support is far better or equal than most certified manufacturers. Examples: Cessna's improvements always costs thousands of dollars such as fuel cap restrictors, engine beam mount stiffeners, seat rail upgrades etc. Socata charged $1500 for a timer to extinguish cabin lights so it would not drain the battery. Pratt had blades coming off PT6A engines and wanted $300,000 to make the "product improvement" although a TBM700 deadsticked from the flight levels because it did not have that "improvement" and made a successful landing with 6 sob. The manufacturer even predicted another failure would occur in the fleet prior to TBO yet would not repair the engines. But on my Legacy I get free bolts because Lancair identified a safety issue and took steps to ensure they were incorporated. So, if this high performance aircraft owner gets a $300 hit for support or whatever you want to call it and the doors stay open at Lancair---I think I've got a great deal any way you look at it. Free upgrade parts that aren't under warranty? Unheard of in my world. Thanks Lancair. Paul Miller N357V L2K Former Cessna 414A TBM700 PT6A-64 On 2010-06-02, at 2:22 PM, Mark Sletten wrote: > Further, a kit is > sold as is; as far as I know Lancair does not provide any product upgrades > as part of its technical support.