X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:56:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with SMTP id 4347067 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:46:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.201.203; envelope-from=flycassutts@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 80710 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jun 2010 16:45:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZQf8cJX6i/eQbmrEYosUntops8YAqZs6jExikth9qYVw8N2D71QVLiNcHBxlgaelgNpAJtKJGBMx04JfTLiKi+959w0SGNT/EQt1rjV96GYM/Upesh2zo0uFHcsHSAObjy5/ETuw3HdPrWG1mWhfhET79GhFZMuDodWf10TfZHU=; X-Original-Message-ID: <614162.80029.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5hZyY9AVM1mQ2vXHlcU.cGv.bNxa3x6YlG_K2xJhGXBUFPL Tf8YDxqLtyRD5w1COEnJiyxHg8N2cYZesHHCSHAOhgSR_TwfOt4jXqHMGISn rZR6k0uos9fPSfwtCikfShWCurno2Vu4Y_XcgF8oJbLyefunY.26dGmKXtan FnGzGGKIuyBSq15oS8XqR_W3VLgomCh613nt5OHcp14TLvs9ai03CHiUpD.m nY9H_2HQ1DMzPsgal.hCqrnSl0cvFqEqt8rBNIMvZeX_SqRsxpci9iZ.EGIA ssuZClrOJhl4P6aVtRWQXfxpWnm.EuL2aWy36z5IrX1Si0yK3khd_3pLjV62 cqEWHNTw5lPgNm528rCVBjeIGUxSqudsSQ_wB Received: from [71.208.239.202] by web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:34 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/397.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Art Jensen Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Transfer Of Ownership X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-178546913-1276533934=:80029" --0-178546913-1276533934=:80029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul,=0A=0AI just went to look for that service bulletin but it does not ex= ist.=A0 Also there is no mention of one for replacement of nose gear bolts.= =A0 Can you provide more information so that I can see if this one affects = me.=0A=0AThank you=0A=0AArt=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: paul miller =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: = Mon, June 14, 2010 10:17:49 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Transfer Of Ownership= =0A=0AMark, pardon me for jumping in on your comment.=A0 I just received th= e Legacy nose gear bolts (SB 6655) part of a product improvement.=A0 They w= ere free.=A0 I did not pay $300 when I bought the completed airplane from t= he builder.=A0 Overall, I think the Lancair support is far better or equal = than most certified manufacturers.=A0 =A0 Examples: Cessna's improvements a= lways costs thousands of dollars such as fuel cap restrictors, engine beam = mount stiffeners, seat rail upgrades etc.=A0 Socata charged $1500 for a tim= er to extinguish cabin lights so it would not drain the battery.=A0 Pratt h= ad blades coming off PT6A engines and wanted $300,000 to make the "product = improvement" although a TBM700 deadsticked from the flight levels because i= t did not have that "improvement" and made a successful landing with 6 sob.= =A0 The manufacturer even predicted another failure would occur in the flee= t prior to TBO yet would not repair the engines.=A0 But on my Legacy I get = free bolts because Lancair identified a safety issue and took steps to ensure t= hey were incorporated.=0A=0ASo, if this high performance aircraft owner get= s a $300 hit for support or whatever you want to call it and the doors stay= open at Lancair---I think I've got a great deal any way you look at it.=A0= Free upgrade parts that aren't under warranty?=A0 Unheard of in my world.= =A0 Thanks Lancair.=0A=0APaul Miller=0AN357V L2K=0AFormer Cessna 414A=0ATBM= 700 PT6A-64=0A=0AOn 2010-06-02, at 2:22 PM, Mark Sletten wrote:=0A=0A> Furt= her, a kit is=0A> sold as is; as far as I know Lancair does not provide any= product upgrades=0A> as part of its technical support.=0A=0A=0A--=0AFor ar= chives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-178546913-1276533934=:80029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I just went to = look for that service bulletin but it does not exist.  Also there is n= o mention of one for replacement of nose gear bolts.  Can you provide = more information so that I can see if this one affects me.
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=0AFrom: paul miller <paul@tbm700.c= om>
To: lml@lancairon= line.net
Sent: Mon, June= 14, 2010 10:17:49 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Transfer Of Ownership

Mark, pardon me for ju= mping in on your comment.  I just received the Legacy nose gear bolts = (SB 6655) part of a product improvement.  They were free.  I did = not pay $300 when I bought the completed airplane from the builder.  O= verall, I think the Lancair support is far better or equal than most certif= ied manufacturers.    Examples: Cessna's improvements always cost= s thousands of dollars such as fuel cap restrictors, engine beam mount stif= feners, seat rail upgrades etc.  Socata charged $1500 for a timer to e= xtinguish cabin lights so it would not drain the battery.  Pratt had blades coming off PT6A engines and wanted $300,000 to make the "= product improvement" although a TBM700 deadsticked from the flight levels b= ecause it did not have that "improvement" and made a successful landing wit= h 6 sob.  The manufacturer even predicted another failure would occur = in the fleet prior to TBO yet would not repair the engines.  But on my= Legacy I get free bolts because Lancair identified a safety issue and took= steps to ensure they were incorporated.

So, if this high performanc= e aircraft owner gets a $300 hit for support or whatever you want to call i= t and the doors stay open at Lancair---I think I've got a great deal any wa= y you look at it.  Free upgrade parts that aren't under warranty? = ; Unheard of in my world.  Thanks Lancair.

Paul Miller
N357V= L2K
Former Cessna 414A
TBM700 PT6A-64

On 2010-06-02, at 2:22 = PM, Mark Sletten wrote:

> Further, a kit is
> sold as is; as far as I know Lancair does not provide any product upgrades
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