X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:21:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web111404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.150] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with SMTP id 4344836 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:52:41 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.150; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33927 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2010 20:52:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BCG8TAPa9UP9HL2i9vK7Y1Wl6Jr8GqdYspaiE4UFt32ruRwEvj68DuM0zUM4Ael2StBU2jgSeZvrbk9c2RDjQJYrMzuhHkEjitKpYeELeFfxZmdAgIjAmZdqK5sr2e0CjY0M00Gby/6N77/Jdx9wo5KzZ+dasfzEnsqxhA+AmBM=; X-Original-Message-ID: <979274.33200.qm@web111404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6WPaqYwVM1m0HbanZcCtjsUbev7fUr_uagh0ZEktntyZ1io E1Qy3fgA4LARtF3cfWFqs3HpL7fDOdgSplUJwQyORDIT4SsiopGJDzgFuVFI QXEmsUcJt3LkfDl_7V.ei4vemzOZsx5e4BexdwqeJMa3_HZhEpmqWdaeq8qa yfSM5xW_sV9HDgBtrZJs4lFHZ9BSGz6gxyQ0kn61A3cWexoL0bZwW7itmCPH Ugcy9.EXokEyg7J3MqeUZwkX0Ei8yXE0O3hJXOzjfMtvjlnUAEiX8.ioEgf9 IpB0oqjZA.tnxOUuLZLrsiMDieUVy8N7nNZdpgDSTOmg0Jq.XcnjILpWxYLp a0d3F00SQYtxDfkDUtG9VJO3Z4JjhW9foMr2EnA-- Received: from [76.8.220.18] by web111404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:52:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 X-Original-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: discolored paint mystery X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2117249117-1276289524=:33200" --0-2117249117-1276289524=:33200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wendell, I am familiar with what you are talking about. I used all catylized stuff. = I had the paint shop owner where I painted my plane over to look at it. He = said it is strange to have the paint stay white for 4 years and have yellow= patches show up in the matter of a week. He has never seen that happen bef= ore. Randy Snarr --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Wendell Solesbee wrote: From: Wendell Solesbee Subject: [LML] Re: discolored paint mystery To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 12:10 PM =0A=0A =0A =0A=0ARandy , You are probably getting some bleed through =0Afro= m something under the topcoat. Do you recall what kind of filler you used. = =0ABleed through used to be a big problem in the auto body business especia= lly with =0Awhite but with the use of catalyzed primers it isn't much of a = problem anymore. =0ADid you use any uncatylized products or did you sand th= rough =0Athe=A0catalyzed primer exposing the filler =0Abefore the top coat = was applied.=0A=A0=0AWendell Solesbee N4LK=0A=0A ----- Original Message --= --- =0A From: =0A randy =0A snarr =0A To: lml@lancaironline.net =0A Se= nt: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:23 AM=0A Subject: [LML] discolored paint =0A = mystery=0A =20 =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A One of the main reasons I subscribe = to this site is that there are =0A many who are much smarter than I = on the forum. Hopefully, someone has a =0A suggestion on an off the = wall matter.=0A =A0=0A I park in a large enclosed hangar next= to a Lear Jet that has =0A a=A0large high powered Radar Imaging pod= on the bottom of the =0A airplane. The company that uses the airpla= ne flies all over the world =0A doing=A0 ground imaging work=A0from = 40,000 feet. I don't know much =0A about how the equipment works and= until recently did not care. Due to =0A the economy, the airpane ha= s been sitting for some time. The=A0last 2 =0A weeks however,=A0the = company that owns the craft has had =0A people=A0working on the imag= ing equipment in the hangar.=0A Yes, this is going somewhere.. Last = week I noticed I several areas =0A on my=A0airplane where my white p= aint was turning yellow. Similar to =0A what you would see happen af= ter years of exposure in the =0A sun.=A0Strange thing is that the "y= ellowing" happend over about 4 =0A days.=A0During this time the=A0hi= gh power radar imaging equipment =0A was being worked on. It was tol= d it was also tested in the hangar. =0A=0A My question is for anyone= in the group that has an understanding of =0A this type of technolo= gy is=A0could this have been the cause of my =0A yellowing paint? Th= e strange part is that, only some places on the =0A airplane turned = yellow. Right side=A0=A0elevator,=A0right side =0A of hte canopy fra= me and the inner wing on the pilots side. To add to the =0A mystery,= All of the areas that turned yellow are generally in line from =0A = where the suspected paint yellowing radar emitter would have been. I was = =0A told by a representative of the company that it is indeed a powe= rful =0A radar and that it could not be fully powered up in the hang= ar as it =0A would do the same thing as=A0a microwave does to anyone= in the =0A room.=0A If someone has some insight about this s= tuff, I would love to hear =0A their thoughts on the matter...=0A = =A0=0A Thanks in advance... Randy Snarr=0A =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-2117249117-1276289524=:33200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wendell,
I am familiar with what you are t= alking about. I used all catylized stuff. I had the paint shop owner where = I painted my plane over to look at it. He said it is strange to have the pa= int stay white for 4 years and have yellow patches show up in the matter of= a week. He has never seen that happen before.
Randy Snarr


--= - On Fri, 6/11/10, Wendell Solesbee <Wendell@solesbeeauto.com><= /i> wrote:

From: Wendell Solesbee <W= endell@solesbeeauto.com>
Subject: [LML] Re: discolored paint mystery<= br>To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 12:10 PM
=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A
Randy , You are probably getting some bleed through = =0Afrom something under the topcoat. Do you recall what kind of filler you = used. =0ABleed through used to be a big problem in the auto body business e= specially with =0Awhite but with the use of catalyzed primers it isn't much= of a problem anymore. =0ADid you use any uncatylized products or did you s= and through =0Athe catalyzed pr= imer exposing the filler =0Abefore the top coat was applied.
= =0A
 
=0A
Wendell Solesbee N4LK
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=0A
----- Original Message -----
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From: = =0A randy =0A snarr
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To: lml@lancaironline.net =0A
Sent: F= riday, June 11, 2010 3:23 AM
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Subject: [LML] discolored paint =0A mystery
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=0A =0A =0A =0A
=0A One of the main reasons I subscribe to this site is that there are =0A = many who are much smarter than I on the forum. Hopefully, someone has a= =0A suggestion on an off the wall matter.=0A
&nbs= p;
=0A
I park in a large enclosed hangar next to a Lear Je= t that has =0A a large high powered Radar Imaging pod on the bo= ttom of the =0A airplane. The company that uses the airplane flies a= ll over the world =0A doing  ground imaging work from 40,0= 00 feet. I don't know much =0A about how the equipment works and unt= il recently did not care. Due to =0A the economy, the airpane has be= en sitting for some time. The last 2 =0A weeks however, th= e company that owns the craft has had =0A people working on the= imaging equipment in the hangar.
=0A
Yes, this is going s= omewhere.. Last week I noticed I several areas =0A on my airpla= ne where my white paint was turning yellow. Similar to =0A what you = would see happen after years of exposure in the =0A sun. Strang= e thing is that the "yellowing" happend over about 4 =0A days. = During this time the high power radar imaging equipment =0A was= being worked on. It was told it was also tested in the hangar. =0A
= =0A
My question is for anyone in the group that has an understa= nding of =0A this type of technology is could this have been th= e cause of my =0A yellowing paint? The strange part is that, only so= me places on the =0A airplane turned yellow. Right side  e= levator, right side =0A of hte canopy frame and the inner wing = on the pilots side. To add to the =0A mystery, All of the areas that= turned yellow are generally in line from =0A where the suspected pa= int yellowing radar emitter would have been. I was =0A told by a rep= resentative of the company that it is indeed a powerful =0A radar an= d that it could not be fully powered up in the hangar as it =0A woul= d do the same thing as a microwave does to anyone in the =0A ro= om.
=0A
If someone has some insight about this stuff, I wo= uld love to hear =0A their thoughts on the matter...
=0A =
 
=0A
Thanks in advance...
Randy Snarr
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