Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #54702
From: GT Phantom <gt_phantom@hotmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] More on Ed Smith's accident
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:21:34 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
The following is my response to someone who contacted me directly after they not only did not read what I actually wrote, but accused me of criticizing the pilot's performance.  Name censored - this is not about embarrassing someone, and perhaps his point is that I was sufficiently unclear in my original post that others may also have misinterpreted it.  Or perhaps he just had a bad day a the office...  ;-)
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Dear xxxx,

You are exactly correct - opinions are one per person.  That is why I was very careful to specify that MY opinion was that of a rear view mirror, armchair quarterback, given the choice (not assumed, as you falsely indicate) point of view and only to be taken as a lesson learned for the rest of us - so that if WE ever end up in a similar position we might possibly do better.  I did not criticize the pilot nor his choices, that is your interpretation.  Having suffered the loss of many friends to aviation accidents, and even a few where they suffer the guilt of a wrong (or even right) decision having unintentionally cost the life of another, my advice for the COMMUNITY was both sound and practical. 

Your assertion that he is a hero, and that he did an excellent job, is utterly baseless.  Do you know if he ever practiced engine out procedures?  Do you know if he ever considered what to do in the event of an oil leak destroying his visibility (a relatively common emergency with C/S props)?  Do you understand that it is just as dangerous to glorify any aviator who befalls tragedy as it is to vilify them, when doing so hurts the credibility of our community?  At the end of the day perhaps he IS a hero - but to ASSUME that he is is just as irrational and unproductive as what the despicable author of that "news/slander" article wrote.

I have personally lost 1/2 of a propeller over the ocean in a Lancair, so the scenario is not totally unfamiliar to me.  While I did not suffer his visibility problems (it was a wooden prop), I did consider it as a possibility - all I "knew" was that there was a horrible vibration and that I might have blown a rod and could quickly blow a seal, or even lose the engine off of the aircraft (a good friend once threw a C/S blade on takeoff in a Lancair and broke 3 of 4 motor mounts.  He DID lose visibility, and very nearly his life...).  I reacted quickly and correctly, I am convinced, because I had prepared for such an event and practiced for it.  I also have the benefit of several million dollars worth of taxpayer funded training behind me and had the subsequent mind set that such benefit often results in pounded into me - but there is ample evidence that that attitude is something that any pilot can choose to adopt.  Sadly, some do not.

The fact of the matter is, if the aircraft was flyable then given even a few seconds before impact he could have side-slipped enough to determine whether he would land in the shallow water rather than on the beach.  While he may not have been able to make out a person through the oil, there is a good possibility that he may have seen a boat - or that hitting a boat might not have resulted in anyone's death.  Given the time of year, it seems very unlikely that the water would contain swimmers.  Perhaps, as you suggest, he did not have that much time, or perhaps he just panicked, etc., speculation, etc.  None of that is to be criticized; the first being uncontrollable and the latter being mere human frailty which is just as utterly unavoidable as whether you were born a man or a woman. 

However, based on reports I've read over the years both in and out of the military, statistically speaking he was probably worried more about saving his beautiful airplane than he was about the consequences of his decisions.  The decision to sacrifice the airplane to save your life, and potentially the lives of others, is counter intuitive to a normal human - especially one who has spent thousands of loving hours creating that aircraft.  That decision needs to be made on the ground before you fly, and that decision requires preparation and discipline.  That is the lesson to be learned from this, and if even one person learns it then the aviation community will have benefited from this tragedy.


Fly safe all,

Bill

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<anonymity of this person preserved, since they did not wish the community to see their response>

OPINIONS are Like <profanity removed>. Does anyone Know the Facts! Does anyone Know What the Situation in the Cockpit was at the Time of Landing, NO. Does anyone Know if there was a CHOICE on exactly where or How to Land, NO. Does anyone Know How Rough the Surf was at the Time of Landing, NO. Does anyone Know How a Lancair IV handles without a Prop, NO. All the Critics, All the Judges. How do you Know if he had Landed in the Water Blindly he wouldn't have hit a Boat or someone on a Jetski, Does Anyone Know if there where Boats in the Water at the time of Landing, NO!! It was an "UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT". I would Think One of our OWN would get more Support from LML. My Sincere Heart Felt Prayers go out to the Family, Wife and Children of Mr. Jones. Also, to ED Smith. If no One Had Died in the Landing, Ed Smith would have been a Hero, Right. Think about it. I think Ed did an EXCELLENT JOB Piloting an Aircraft DEAD STICK BLIND.

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:23:18 -0400

Why was she quoted?  For the same reason Michael Moore gets even a moment's notice in the press.  People love emotional stupidity - it sells papers.

As for his decision to land on the beach - in a strictly rear-view mirror / armchair quarterback manner, I'll go out on a limb and suggest that a lesson learned here is that if you can't see what is straight ahead you should choose to land in the shallow water, given the choice.  Yes, it may be cold and damage the leather - but so is waking up in the morning knowing you killed someone.

Our prayers go out to both the family of the deceased and the pilot for what they have, and will, endure.

Bill


jeffrey rienzi wrote:
Schiavo, the former NTSB official. Absolutely Ignorant !!!! Makes the NTSB look Bad. Why was a FORMER NTSB official even quoted??
 

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:04:45 -0400
From: 2thman@cablespeed.com
Subject: [LML] More on Ed Smith's accident

Who on earth is this person Schiavo?  Was she misquoted?  It’s become normal to expect comments like the turbine engine and 387 mph errors made in the reports, but the quote below is really ridiculous coming from anyone who knows anything at all about flying an aircraft with an engine out, even a  slow one but especially for any Lancair.

 

“Even with oil smeared on the windshield, Schiavo, the former NTSB official, said Smith should have been able to see through a small window on the side of the plane and possibly yell out to anyone below. Still, there may have been little time to try to avoid hitting the jogger, she said.
She said Smith made the right choice in landing on the beach rather than the water. The aircraft likely wasn't carrying flotation equipment.
"Planes like this sink like a rock," she said.”
This quote from an article on AP.

 

 

Regards,

 

John Barrett, CEO

Leading Edge Composites

PO Box 428

Port Hadlock, WA 98339

 

www.carbinge.com

 



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