X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:32:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with SMTP id 4165640 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:01:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.123; envelope-from=paulhershorin@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 45553 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2010 23:01:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=bellsouth.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WZocc1NeQgBmvnP7dc9+ClZuG3CfjysOtrPxUsJxiqIxLQ3oqvorA0r7dxK/PPihBP/Rc7sm1oItkDYE8wCAbUozC0dsg7uWRAxsx489bzGlxkwg10Ry4U/rDUSU0vO/HD/ZTtNjvOAkpHZI3lUBDaQ18zENg0XIGhi/yrxIuj4=; X-Original-Message-ID: <955725.45191.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fgl6Z_UVM1khR__8xejKgpNTEsB9ABU91dRxVqoKQDsDN8P WJKOnunbvHNP.9FVWqAbVM4eTqyRwUTBs5BqjEAXlWaYOXbJU_vaR14SCa._ 0PpfXKqMuslxGF3Tn7tahsdwG57nFD1ovNsvNuFSwnTpy9lu5XcsFtBxT.iJ zrKCLB2YgyqDPrxDNJcaqZIShyxhk_atUHBYIqUnq8ge_fr_WCg6gcKf3bDt TqU7enDa7IEfX2hcgOoE14jSzIYAX89OE2_VxcseGli4HR3fX_oQceB1bBPT x75f.SdclguUF4iiOLB9sBHKhu7XgLPYICcns0T1aGyNkYfRFlxqb6qyvkDy qoFKfOHuF4h3Y4n9V9yC. Received: from [98.77.124.171] by web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:01:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: PAUL HERSHORIN Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1838994752-1268607680=:45191" --0-1838994752-1268607680=:45191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I fly into Sun'n Fun every year---I back up what Jay has said 100%.=C2=A0 B= e sure you know the high speed approach.=0APaul Hershorin=0A360--471LA=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Art Jensen =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Sun, March 14, 2010 5:45:3= 8 PM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun=0A=0A=0AJay,=C2=A0 =0A=0AIts been sai= d before but bears repeating.=C2=A0 Practice slow flight, know your plane, = study the procedures to get you into Sun & Fun.=C2=A0 Know your limits and = don't let the controllers tell you how to fly your plane.=C2=A0=C2=A0If you= get behind another plane=C2=A0(cessna or J3 or any other slower plane) who= se pilot did not read and understand the notams, has his flaps hanging and = is flying at a speed that makes you uncomfortable or that you are overtakin= g, what are you going to do?=C2=A0 Make that decision now.=C2=A0 Another=C2= =A0example, =C2=A0if you were to hear controllers say=C2=A0that you need ke= ep your down wind tight, will you be able to safely turn base to final=C2= =A0without a stall spin situation developing?=C2=A0 Just remember that you = are flying that plane and you must make decisions that keep you safe.=C2=A0= If necessary you must be able to make the decision to break it off and go = around.=C2=A0 Yes, that might mean going back out to start all over again s= o be sure that you have enough fuel on board.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Study the Notams and have a plan so that you know where= you will go if you have to abort and start over again.=C2=A0 Bottom line i= s be prepared and don't get pressured into doing anything you are uncomfort= able with.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Berni =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Sun, March 14, 2010 = 7:31:10 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun=0A=0A=0AJay:=0A=C2=A0=0AI would= say that it depends on your comfort level and if you are flying solo.=C2= =A0 Having flown into Sun =E2=80=98n Fun for the past 10 years I have seen = a few interesting things, some of which I would rather like to avoid in the= future.=C2=A0 If you want to arrive on the 13th a co-pilot or good lookout= can be valuable as some pilots come into the pattern as they please with z= ero communication and or no clue of what they should be doing. Read the arr= ival information and be sure you are clear on the procedures.=0A=C2=A0=0ASi= nce this is your first visit to this great event, I would suggest going ear= ly.=C2=A0 There will be much less congestion mid day on the 12th.=C2=A0 In = any event I believe you will enjoy Sun =E2=80=98n Fun.=C2=A0 Flying in and = spending a few days on the field is always memorable.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A= =C2=A0=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:Lancair Mailing List= [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jay Phillips=0ASent: Saturday,= March 13, 2010 6:43 PM=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASubject: [LML] Sun an= d Fun=0A=C2=A0=0AI=E2=80=99m planning my first trip to Sun and Fun and have= a question for you SnF veterans.=0A=C2=A0=0AI=E2=80=99m starting from the = Pacfic Northwest so plan on taking a day and a half to get there rather tha= n arriving after dark. The event starts on Tuesday, April 13th. Would it be= better to leave a day early and arrive mid-day on the 12th, or is an arriv= al during the show on the 13th OK?=0A=C2=A0=0AThanks,=0A=C2=A0=0AJay Philli= ps=0ALegacy N92SX=0A --0-1838994752-1268607680=:45191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I fly into Sun'n Fun every year---I back up what Jay has said 100= %.  Be sure you know the high speed approach.
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=0AIts been said before but bears repeating.  Practice slow flight, know= your plane, study the procedures to get you into Sun & Fun.  Know= your limits and don't let the controllers tell you how to fly your plane.&= nbsp; If you get behind another plane (cessna or J3 or any other = slower plane) whose pilot did not read and understand the notams, has his f= laps hanging and is flying at a speed that makes you uncomfortable or that = you are overtaking, what are you going to do?  Make that decision now.=   Another example,  if you were to hear controllers say = ;that you need keep your down wind tight, will you be able to safely turn b= ase to final without a stall spin situation developing?  Just rem= ember that you are flying that plane and you must make decisions that keep = you safe.  If necessary you must be able to make the decision to break= it off and go around.  Yes, that might mean going back out to start all over again so be sure that you have enough fuel on board.&nbs= p;  Study the Notams and have a plan so that you know where you will g= o if you have to abort and start over again.  Bottom line is be prepar= ed and don't get pressured into doing anything you are uncomfortable with.<= BR>
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Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 7:31:10 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun

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I would say that it depends on your comfor= t level and if you are flying solo.  Having flown into Sun =E2=80=98n = Fun for the past 10 years I have seen a few interesting things, some of whi= ch I would rather like to avoid in the future.  If you want to arrive = on the 13th a co-pilot or good lookout can be valuable as some p= ilots come into the pattern as they please with zero communication and or n= o clue of what they should be doing. Read the arrival information and be su= re you are clear on the procedures.

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Since this is your first visit to this= great event, I would suggest going early.  There will be much less co= ngestion mid day on the 12th.  In any event I believe you w= ill enjoy Sun =E2=80=98n Fun.  Flying in and spending a few days on th= e field is always memorable.

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From:<= /B> Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jay Phillips
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Subject: [LML] Sun a= nd Fun

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I=E2=80=99m planning my first= trip to Sun and Fun and have a question for you SnF veterans.

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I=E2=80=99m starting fr= om the Pacfic Northwest so plan on taking a day and a half to get there rat= her than arriving after dark. The event starts on Tuesday, April 13th. Woul= d it be better to leave a day early and arrive mid-day on the 12th, or is an arrival during the show on the 13th OK?

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