X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:45:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.201] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with SMTP id 4165435 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:03:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.201.201; envelope-from=flycassutts@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18203 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2010 16:02:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5zjCuniuROZ7VC2dqZagoVTWuygmEb7USbBd3mwWKMcjsJtu0Ow1roXwG2EcNI2fdyRi1A3ayMXl4Z6oEBRbjaKMXH/vb8NiZ4n1dJ7bllBkTQ/gB8bP6n+Zvn7ziOUUx+p2etGa6FMETyh7jm7dRsq83vYzvzRbWLlZl8JzgDk=; X-Original-Message-ID: <740770.17858.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .wFDfq8VM1mwGDTk0MYjpEfgMQXQwr0HF65POqhh5hlIj0J2f9Wn9_19ir.XmQzk2AISsiFz_o9zDLwkTTfUS4642u5QbkTf8y2CdbfFGriDoW6hay6KHKeSAvfQw47U0TYvPHtK6WS72817m2BPPJ9lUQCskWkAEEt58GZtnxUlt4O62J9G6QRlj13kYIIZXhZeE_Gt3JxWuP3pAofpcSSKUjN18r3bujnU8gOCMfrShw6mcPBN_d_bL3GFq6IL0l92SWM6mKd.JTJet0AZwpag5EM816BH62.A5CoaKeFLQbiUUSOr9rP4HnkTyuUFtWkRvjco54jzNopzqc5PlazyxVxSaEdH03lKmbecxMLfBc4i9O6IECjxU_gcnAvz Received: from [71.208.213.176] by web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:02:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Art Jensen Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1806921963-1268582575=:17858" --0-1806921963-1268582575=:17858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay,=C2=A0 =0A=0AIts been said before but bears repeating.=C2=A0 Practice s= low flight, know your plane, study the procedures to get you into Sun & Fun= .=C2=A0 Know your limits and don't let the controllers tell you how to fly = your plane.=C2=A0=C2=A0If you get behind another plane=C2=A0(cessna or J3 o= r any other slower plane) whose pilot did not read and understand the notam= s, has his flaps hanging and is flying at a speed that makes you uncomforta= ble or that you are overtaking, what are you going to do?=C2=A0 Make that d= ecision now.=C2=A0 Another=C2=A0example, =C2=A0if you were to hear controll= ers say=C2=A0that you need keep your down wind tight, will you be able to s= afely turn base to final=C2=A0without a stall spin situation developing?=C2= =A0 Just remember that you are flying that plane and you must make decision= s that keep you safe.=C2=A0 If necessary you must be able to make the decis= ion to break it off and go around.=C2=A0 Yes, that might mean going back ou= t to start all over again so be sure that you have enough fuel on board.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Study the Notams and have a plan so that you know where= you will go if you have to abort and start over again.=C2=A0 Bottom line i= s be prepared and don't get pressured into doing anything you are uncomfort= able with.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Berni =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Sun, March 14, 2010 = 7:31:10 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Sun and Fun=0A=0A=0AJay:=0A=C2=A0=0AI would= say that it depends on your comfort level and if you are flying solo.=C2= =A0 Having flown into Sun =E2=80=98n Fun for the past 10 years I have seen = a few interesting things, some of which I would rather like to avoid in the= future.=C2=A0 If you want to arrive on the 13th a co-pilot or good lookout= can be valuable as some pilots come into the pattern as they please with z= ero communication and or no clue of what they should be doing. Read the arr= ival information and be sure you are clear on the procedures.=0A=C2=A0=0ASi= nce this is your first visit to this great event, I would suggest going ear= ly.=C2=A0 There will be much less congestion mid day on the 12th.=C2=A0 In = any event I believe you will enjoy Sun =E2=80=98n Fun.=C2=A0 Flying in and = spending a few days on the field is always memorable.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A= =C2=A0=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:Lancair Mailing List= [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jay Phillips=0ASent: Saturday,= March 13, 2010 6:43 PM=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASubject: [LML] Sun an= d Fun=0A=C2=A0=0AI=E2=80=99m planning my first trip to Sun and Fun and have= a question for you SnF veterans.=0A=C2=A0=0AI=E2=80=99m starting from the = Pacfic Northwest so plan on taking a day and a half to get there rather tha= n arriving after dark. The event starts on Tuesday, April 13th. Would it be= better to leave a day early and arrive mid-day on the 12th, or is an arriv= al during the show on the 13th OK?=0A=C2=A0=0AThanks,=0A=C2=A0=0AJay Philli= ps=0ALegacy N92SX=0A=0A=0A --0-1806921963-1268582575=:17858 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Its been = said before but bears repeating.  Practice slow flight, know your plan= e, study the procedures to get you into Sun & Fun.  Know your limi= ts and don't let the controllers tell you how to fly your plane.  = ;If you get behind another plane (cessna or J3 or any other slower pla= ne) whose pilot did not read and understand the notams, has his flaps hangi= ng and is flying at a speed that makes you uncomfortable or that you are ov= ertaking, what are you going to do?  Make that decision now.  Ano= ther example,  if you were to hear controllers say that you = need keep your down wind tight, will you be able to safely turn base to fin= al without a stall spin situation developing?  Just remember that= you are flying that plane and you must make decisions that keep you safe.&= nbsp; If necessary you must be able to make the decision to break it off an= d go around.  Yes, that might mean going back out to start all over again so be sure that you have enough fuel on board.&nbs= p;  Study the Notams and have a plan so that you know where you will g= o if you have to abort and start over again.  Bottom line is be prepar= ed and don't get pressured into doing anything you are uncomfortable with.<= BR>
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I would say that it depends on = your comfort level and if you are flying solo.  Having flown into Sun = =E2=80=98n Fun for the past 10 years I have seen a few interesting things, = some of which I would rather like to avoid in the future.  If you want= to arrive on the 13th a co-pilot or good lookout can be valuabl= e as some pilots come into the pattern as they please with zero communicati= on and or no clue of what they should be doing. Read the arrival informatio= n and be sure you are clear on the procedures.

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Since this is your first vi= sit to this great event, I would suggest going early.  There will be m= uch less congestion mid day on the 12th.  In any event I be= lieve you will enjoy Sun =E2=80=98n Fun.  Flying in and spending a few= days on the field is always memorable.

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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jay Phillips
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I=E2=80=99m plannin= g my first trip to Sun and Fun and have a question for you SnF veterans.

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<= FONT size=3D2 face=3DCalibri>I=E2=80=99m st= arting from the Pacfic Northwest so plan on taking a day and a half to get = there rather than arriving after dark. The event starts on Tuesday, April 1= 3th. Would it be better to leave a day early and arrive mid-day on the 12th, or is an arrival during the show on the 13th OK?

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