X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:33:32 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from cgpro2.tulsaconnect.com ([65.38.1.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4160321 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:31:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.38.1.5; envelope-from=kent@tulsaconnect.com Received: from [65.38.9.183] (HELO main) by cgpro2.tulsaconnect.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with SMTP id 1615214 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:31:15 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <92A83F26A7B64D64A9BC4C4297A8B5FA@main> From: "Kent" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: starter drive problem IO550 X-Original-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:31:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04B6_01CABF84.69060170" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04B6_01CABF84.69060170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is a link to a video that Aircraft Specialites made of a cutaway = starter adaptor with a Iskra and a common old-style Presolite motor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPsNMz1-IWLA Basically it just shows the sliding worm gear not retracting all the way = and it shows the end of the worm gear shaft no relaxing. The mechanism needs to be able to unwind a bit so to relax the clutch = spring after engagement. Kent Felkins TUlsa ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Peter Hebert=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: [LML] Re: starter drive problem IO550 I just put a skytec starter to replace my iscra. Replaced one drive = under warranty. The skytec has a solenoid which disengages the motor = from the starter. The permanent magnet starters can create drag on the = starter spring which results in wear. Cirrus does not allow Continental = to ship them motors with the Iscra. Peter Hebert=20 -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Brunner To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2010 10:41 am Subject: [LML] Re: starter drive problem IO550 Also had to replace my starter drive on an IO-550 in a Legacy. = Unfortunately, engine mounts had to be loosened and engine swung = forward. Apparently, different starters vary in their tendency to kill the = starter drive adapter. My understanding is that the Iskra is the worst = and that the old Prestolite is the best. Allen Barrett can probably = give you further information. D. Brunner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: "cfi@instructor.net" To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 6:35:01 AM Subject: [LML] starter drive problem TSIO550 I know there was some discussion a while back about starter drive = issues, but I can't find any specifics. I've developed a problem where = the starter slips and won't engage, so I suppose I'm a victim of the TCM = problem at 400hr TT. Is is possible to remove the adapter without = moving the engine forward? I have an A/C pump on the back of the engine = too, so it's very packed behind the engine. I'm not even sure what to = remove. Anyone have some ideas to make this as easy as possible? Any = photos? =20 Thanks Ron=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2732 - Release Date: = 03/09/10 01:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_04B6_01CABF84.69060170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is a link to a video that Aircraft = Specialites=20 made of a cutaway starter adaptor with a Iskra and a common old-style = Presolite=20 motor.
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DPsNMz1-IWLA
 
Basically it just shows the sliding = worm gear not=20 retracting all the way and it shows the end of the worm gear shaft no=20 relaxing.
 
The mechanism needs to be able to = unwind a bit so=20 to relax  the clutch spring after engagement.
 
Kent Felkins
TUlsa
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Peter = Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 = 11:40=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: starter = drive problem=20 IO550

I just = put a skytec=20 starter to replace my iscra.  Replaced one drive under = warranty. =20 The skytec has a solenoid which disengages the motor from the starter. = The=20 permanent magnet starters can create drag on the starter spring which = results=20 in wear.  Cirrus does not allow Continental to ship them motors = with the=20 Iscra.

Peter Hebert


-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Douglas Brunner=20 <douglasbrunner@earthlink.net>
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Sent:=20 Tue, Mar 9, 2010 10:41 am
Subject: [LML] Re: starter drive problem=20 IO550

Also=20 had to replace my starter drive on an IO-550 in a Legacy.  = Unfortunately,=20 engine mounts had to be loosened and engine swung = forward.
 
Apparently,=20 different starters vary in their tendency to kill the starter drive=20 adapter.  My understanding is that the Iskra is the worst and = that the=20 old Prestolite is the best.  Allen Barrett can probably give you = further=20 information.
 
D.=20 Brunner
From: "cfi@instructor.net" <cfi@instructor.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sen= t:=20 Tue, March 9, 2010 6:35:01 AM
Subject: [LML] starter drive = problem=20 TSIO550

I=20 know there was some discussion a while back about starter drive = issues, but I=20 can't find any specifics.  I've developed a problem where the = starter=20 slips and won't engage, so I suppose I'm a victim of the TCM problem = at 400hr=20 TT.  Is is possible to remove the adapter without moving the = engine=20 forward?  I have an A/C pump on the back of the engine too, so = it's very=20 packed behind the engine.  I'm not even sure what to = remove.  Anyone=20 have some ideas to make this as easy as possible?   Any=20 photos? 
Thanks

Ron=20


No virus found in this incoming message.
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