X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:58:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.3) with SMTP id 4152624 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:39:13 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.85.70; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69622 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Mar 2010 22:38:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=58c45KsN4A1Y+/6O+aCnyUu2WcoWXs2EHgZgI6EpUMlRwW39uyWLcqgY5xjPl97abYughPMeXbjp/pKQL/7oZtsGlZ32uLEWWWfJVt1Mr2pVK4039qZeHML6wVUHlJfxGlQ+PsVxXsw2/ukHYtY7JbQCT6aUqNyOZxt9bxz/VzE=; X-Original-Message-ID: <926857.81439.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aQ1japsVM1mWB3a3aYOzL5rJJmYzofLSj9pmnsW2S_rSp.A C..wK5aHlJkb2f1q_S5n2DYGeuMKbRBc89X7L9N.RvMFwPkDq3ZKAxAo0nZN eUfMzzXE8WJ2MiqMf6Pj8B_ochAzmLfJ6r5ItyOGeIi8Ld4L0aNtx__72u5W R1zbczjmw4AYojTLNdP0oq6rFbXxgAjd7.B7oy8fcDldaw15uIjupLf3tWg4 0nwoEv6u2Aef0NSClZMypX7gR8ZNXeOVy.QnOYVlciIU3EvevlBgjM2ribqD UNxGVtZZEoYvIZ3UF0HXhMac42DifA7JwvRlHkCU69tT8Onkpm8bvZzhut_r mao2HDZEXic37JT5RLF5JfRve1zzZ39Z4Wiq7zg-- Received: from [149.32.224.33] by web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:38:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:38:38 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Reichel Trim Wheel X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1452144657-1267742318=:81439" --0-1452144657-1267742318=:81439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian,=0AThe aggressiveness of the elevator trim can be reduced by=A0lo= wering the voltage to the circuit in cruise.=A0 I'm using 5V for low rate.= =A0 In the pattern I use the full 14V.=A0 I actually increased the trim tab= span slightly which improves the low speed trimable range.=A0 -don't know = if re-extending the trim tab back to normal length is an option for you.=0A= =0Ahttp://www.n91cz.com/VideoClips/TrimTabDualRate_0001.wmv=0AI installed t= his dual rate feature 12 years ago after discoverying how sensitive full ra= te trim was at high speed.=A0 =0A=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Awww.N= 91CZ.com=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Christian Meie= r =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Thu, March 4, 2010= 11:31:44 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Reichel Trim Wheel=0A=0AOn my 360 big tai= l I made my trim tab 1/3 smaller as the plans told me. The reason for that = change was following:=0AI was told the elev trim is too aggressive in highe= r speeds but now the donwnside is that in lower speed (below 110kts)=0Athe = trim is not powerful enough to keep the plane trimmed in landing descent. A= t 90kts and full trim I need to pull the stick with 0,5kg.=0AActually I hav= e no spring installed. I thought about if the Lancair springtrim would help= , but I'm not sure if 2 systems would be a good idea?=0AA second solution w= ould be to extend the surface of the trimtab. But left and right elevator w= ould be not symmetric anymore. Would the bigger=0Aelevator on one side chan= ge the flight characteristics? I would need a 5/8" extension on full length= of the trimtab...=0AThank you for your comments.=0A=0AChristian=0Awww.lanc= air.at=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironli= ne.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1452144657-1267742318=:81439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The aggressiveness of the elevator trim c= an be reduced by lowering the voltage to the circuit in cruise.  = I'm using 5V for low rate.  In the pattern I use the full 14V.  I= actually increased the trim tab span slightly which improves the low speed= trimable range.  -don't know if re-extending the trim tab back to nor= mal length is an option for you.
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http://www.n91cz.com/VideoClips/TrimTabDualRate_0001.wmv<= /P>=0A

I installed this = dual rate feature 12 years ago after discoverying how sensitive full rate t= rim was at high speed. 

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=0AFrom: = Christian Meier <lancair@meier.cc>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 11:31:44 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Reichel Trim Wheel
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On my 360 big tail I made my trim tab 1/3 smaller as the plans t= old me. The reason for that change was following:
I was told the elev tr= im is too aggressive in higher speeds but now the donwnside is that in lowe= r speed (below 110kts)
the trim is not powerful enough to keep the plane= trimmed in landing descent. At 90kts and full trim I need to pull the stic= k with 0,5kg.
Actually I have no spring installed. I thought about if th= e Lancair springtrim would help, but I'm not sure if 2 systems would be a g= ood idea?
A second solution would be to extend the surface of the trimta= b. But left and right elevator would be not symmetric anymore. Would the bigger
elevator on o= ne side change the flight characteristics? I would need a 5/8" extension on= full length of the trimtab...
Thank you for your comments.

Chris= tian
www.lancair.at





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