X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:31:44 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.3) with ESMTP id 4152329 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:01:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.78.142; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o24J0PCL017719 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:00:25 -0500 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.d30.68b1aab6 (37556) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic-m19.mail.aol.com (magic-m19.mail.aol.com [172.21.136.208]) by cia-mb03.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB035-92b44b90034590; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:00:21 -0500 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <67c35.5df722e9.38c15d45@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:00:21 EST Subject: Springs and Tabs - Another Variation X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67c35.5df722e9.38c15d45_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 67.175.242.202 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.136.208 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_67c35.5df722e9.38c15d45_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had an interesting conversation with Jim Auman - he has restored and is flying a modified 235 airframe with a "stronger" engine (I don't remember how strong, but he moves along right smartly). His airplane is equipped with a MAC servo operated good-sized elevator trim tab that did not yield enough nose-up trim authority at lower speeds when the flaps were deployed. Using a Paul Lipps inspired mod he has overcome that problem. First, remember that the 235 flap actuation mechanism is a torque tube with a console/tunnel located good-sized arm available that rotates the tube. We didn't discuss the fwd/aft travel distance of the arm but it has got to be several inches. So, one end of a screen door spring is attached to the arm and the other end to a turnbuckle which is attached to a clamp placed on the elevator push rod. The net result is that as the flaps are lowered, spring forces increase to add more nose up "trim" on the elevator proper. Uh, can we call this a hybrid system and get a tax credit for it? Jim reports that, after some experimentation in setting spring tension, takeoff and climb does not require trim tab changes as the flaps are moved up. Very little trim tab adjustment is used in cruise and slowing down for approach and landing with flap deployment require no adjustment to the trim tab since the spring "automatically" adjusts the overall elevator trim. Additional benefits of this system are realized when the flaps are retracted during a go-around and the aircraft does not go dramatically out of trim (similar to the Skymaster I mentioned before). If one is flying a 300 series with the spring driven elevator trim (whether or not the Reichel wheel is used), the go-around from a full flap deployment requires careful attention to the enormous change in pitch forces as the flaps are raised. In my airplane, after applying a moderate power increase, the flaps are retracted and the trim adjusted in steps - unwanted additional workload during this critical maneuver. This discussion with Jim further illuminated that the 200 and 300 series Lancairs have a most diverse set of modifications not seen within model types in other Lancairs, and some of these modifications greatly affect the flying characteristics and piloting techniques of these planes. I am sure this must provide a challenge for HPAT and LOBO training syllabi for these models. Scott Krueger --part1_67c35.5df722e9.38c15d45_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had an interesting conversation with Jim Auman - he has restor= ed and=20 is flying a modified 235 airframe with a "stronger" engine (I don't rememb= er how=20 strong, but he moves along right smartly).
 
His airplane is equipped with a MAC servo operated good-sized elevato= r trim=20 tab that did not yield enough nose-up trim authority at lower sp= eeds=20 when the flaps were deployed.  Using a Paul Lipps inspired mod= he has=20 overcome that problem. 
 
First, remember that the 235 flap actuation mechanism is a torque tub= e with=20 a console/tunnel located good-sized arm available that rotates the=20 tube.  We didn't discuss the fwd/aft travel distance of the arm but= it has=20 got to be several inches. 
 
So, one end of a screen door spring is attached to the arm and the ot= her=20 end to a turnbuckle which is attached to a clamp placed on the elevat= or=20 push rod.  The net result is that as the flaps are lowered, spring fo= rces=20 increase to add more nose up "trim" on the elevator proper.  Uh, can= we=20 call this a hybrid system and get a tax credit for it?
 
Jim reports that, after some experimentation in setting spring tensio= n,=20 takeoff and climb does not require trim tab changes as the flaps are= moved=20 up. Very little trim tab adjustment is used in cruise and slowin= g down=20 for approach and landing with flap deployment require no adjustment to the= trim=20 tab since the spring "automatically" adjusts the overall elevator trim.&nb= sp;=20
 
Additional benefits of this system are realized when the flaps= are=20 retracted during a go-around and the aircraft does not go dramatically out= of=20 trim (similar to the Skymaster I mentioned before).  If one is= flying=20 a 300 series with the spring driven elevator trim (whether or not the= =20 Reichel wheel is used), the go-around from a full flap deployment requires= =20 careful attention to the enormous change in pitch forces as the flaps are= =20 raised.  In my airplane, after applying a moderate power increas= e, the=20 flaps are retracted and the trim adjusted in steps - unwanted additio= nal=20 workload during this critical maneuver.
 
This discussion with Jim further illuminated that the 200 and 300 ser= ies=20 Lancairs have a most diverse set of modifications not seen within mod= el=20 types in other Lancairs, and some of these modifications greatly affe= ct the=20 flying characteristics and piloting techniques of these=20 planes.  I am sure this must provide a challenge for HPAT and LOBO=20 training syllabi for these models. 
 
Scott Krueger
 
 
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