X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.222] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.1) with SMTP id 4096117 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:59:42 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.222; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 84321 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jan 2010 03:59:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ObW/rnPX7VzE5HZp07Z45NaO50gLHlYR4aNGAh/ZIWnWfkbnVCmABYmRhxSYtx17DRbGai5KSUoQALX1OcR8O0IDQkIBkbVFvMM6nvcCSJNnfidUQOO8d1/BO7MWleai7DD6RRTvyDVQW/pl0LVSn1M8vE9yNLnI10PiVyytza4=; X-Original-Message-ID: <554908.84272.qm@web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: E3QOizUVM1l3Y5ZS5G4GSC26BmFQK6arzKyyL5GmHDAPl9EIwUdBT9wiFVNDl3atdizWYll8M6XBD5ALO5.Jnxubzhi_uJYwLEYrAY9c4LjIk7.Zm5SQ90VVsCsoB8bgwhKn15iUNrBYeQ6M6MWBJJ9VKL_c4sdiI39Kkq1rGP9.9rGQbg5IMLEnqXtDHCdbsH1RBh_wvLxTY0tsF7aQ9kfoYs9nJQdyYebtrbOROkk.GIaMQmTVAGpwxHIPbNhbrZD4btAwtQBofViMwfs6U8PxUcB2R7_9oFXCac6h3TZPem3BiF.TpKk3iitTwipkKSFT1v8zcEM5I5osCqe15Zms3PuD6Inmqd_bVUjqsqpy9pJhYoEBusTNNo.yH0AZYw-- Received: from [76.8.220.18] by web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:59:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Airspeed sensing switch /Auto gear extension / Engine out gear down Issue! X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-486385737-1264478346=:84272" --0-486385737-1264478346=:84272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Terrence, Facinating idea on the gear down. I believe it has merit... I would be the dummy to flip the plane trying to dead stick land and the ge= ar would auto extend on me. Automation of a major system like that to me is= like having someone in the back seat grab the wheel... Love experimentals, we get to experiment and do it the way WE want to .. Good thoughts... Best, Randy Snarr --- On Sun, 1/24/10, Terrence O'Neill wrote: From: Terrence O'Neill Subject: [LML] Re: Airspeed sensing switch /Auto gear extension / Engine ou= t gear down Issue! To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 4:07 PM Randy,Right, with loss of power I would be gliding at best l/d on my AOA, o= r (gross) at around 105/110, gear and flaps up, until I have made it to the= landing spot. =A0Then I still have the gear down switch .. and if I forget= under stress, at 90 the gear comes out. =A0At 100 when I drop the gear and= flaps, no power, speed loss will depend on whether the 3-blade MT is windm= illing or not... and my prop's electric, and I will have toggled it to low = rpm/high pitch, and I should have an idea of the glide angle for that condi= tion by then, right?=A0As I said before, I considered putting a switch in t= o bypass the auto gear down switch, to be able to land wheels up.When would= I want to do that.?.. over water. =A0Or?How's that sound?Terrence On Jan 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, randy snarr wrote: Terrence, Mine is the same as yours only no auto gear down. Only a warning light and = horn for low speed and gear up. I would seriously consider changing your set up for the following reason. T= his is a bit of a long winded response but it brings up a vitally important= point for the group. =0A=0A=0A --0-486385737-1264478346=:84272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Terrence,
Facinating idea on the gear down= . I believe it has merit...

I would be the dummy to flip the plane t= rying to dead stick land and the gear would auto extend on me. Automation o= f a major system like that to me is like having someone in the back seat gr= ab the wheel...

Love experimentals, we get to experiment and do it t= he way WE want to ..
Good thoughts...
Best,
Randy Snarr

---= On Sun, 1/24/10, Terrence O'Neill <troneill@charter.net> wrote:

From: Terrence O'Neill <tronei= ll@charter.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: Airspeed sensing switch /Auto gear= extension / Engine out gear down Issue!
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Da= te: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 4:07 PM

Randy,
Right, with loss of power I would be glidi= ng at best l/d on my AOA, or (gross) at around 105/110, gear and flaps up, = until I have made it to the landing spot.  Then I still have the gear = down switch .. and if I forget under stress, at 90 the gear comes out. &nbs= p;At 100 when I drop the gear and flaps, no power, speed loss will depend o= n whether the 3-blade MT is windmilling or not... and my prop's electric, a= nd I will have toggled it to low rpm/high pitch, and I should have an idea = of the glide angle for that condition by then, right? 
As I = said before, I considered putting a switch in to bypass the auto gear down = switch, to be able to land wheels up.
When would I want to do tha= t.?.. over water.  Or?
How's that sound?
Terrence<= /div>

On Jan 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, randy snarr wrote:
Terrence,
Mine is the same as yours only no auto gear down. Only a wa= rning light and horn for low speed and gear up.

I would seriously co= nsider changing your set up for the following reason. This is a bit of a lo= ng winded response but it brings up a vitally important point for the group= .


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