X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from snt0-omc3-s26.snt0.hotmail.com ([65.55.90.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.1) with ESMTP id 4092719 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:29:49 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.90.165; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from SNT112-DS20 ([65.55.90.136]) by snt0-omc3-s26.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:29:15 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [68.186.114.52] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Automatic header tank feeder X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:29:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1D1E_01CA9B88.6A174D50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V10.00.0070.1500 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:29:12 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2010 01:29:15.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[79746CE0:01CA9BCB] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1D1E_01CA9B88.6A174D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My plane has the PPAvionics controller with Facet pumps and it works = very well. It will not work on the latest edition of Facet pumps. That = is why they don't make them anymore. It is not an automatic transfer = system. It is a controller that senses when the wing tanks are empty = during transfer and automatically shuts the pumps off. =20 For me, I prefer to manually transfer fuel from wing tanks to header = tank, so I know how much is in the wing tanks. I need something to do = while flying anyway. And I prefer the header tank to be no more than = 50% full for landing when solo for CG purposes. Gary Edwards LNC2=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Terrence O'Neill=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Automatic header tank feeder I had one in my 235/320 and the optical sensors didn't work, nor did = the control unit... and they had no substitute or repairs available. I = finally took it out in put toggle switched in for each Facet transfer = pump to the header, and in the header put in a float switch that woujld = interrupt the Facets when the fuel level in the header was to the = shutoff level desired. Works fine.=20 Terrence L235/320 N211AL On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Novelli wrote: Try = http://www.pillarpointelectronics.com/history.html . They were Pillar Point Avionics. As PPAv = they produced a device that do what you want but I think they = discontinued it. I have one in my 320 and works fine. =20 S=EDlvio Novelli Lancair 320 - PP-XSN +55 (14) 3841-2337 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of Tom Anderson Sent: quinta-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2010 19:53 To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Automatic header tank feeder =20 My 360 is getting ready for some repairs that includes fixing = defective fuel gauges and recalibrating my totalizer. While I=92m at it, = I=92d like to add a switching device that would read the header tank = level and automatically activate the fuel transfer pumps when the header = tank level drops below, say, 4 gallons and then shuts it off at a header = tank reading of about 9 gallons. I saw a 2 =BC=94 display for such a = unit on a friend=92s Lancair, but he couldn=92t recall where he got if = from and doubted they were still available. Does anyone know if they are = or what other options might be available? Thanks for any thoughts on = this. =20 Tom, N360DB ------=_NextPart_000_1D1E_01CA9B88.6A174D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My plane has the PPAvionics controller with Facet pumps and it = works very=20 well.  It will not work on the latest edition of Facet pumps.  = That is=20 why they don't make them anymore.  It is not an automatic transfer=20 system.  It is a controller that senses when the wing tanks = are empty=20 during transfer and automatically shuts the pumps off. 
 
For me, I prefer to manually transfer fuel from wing tanks to = header tank,=20 so I know how much is in the wing tanks.  I need something to = do while=20 flying anyway.  And I prefer the header tank to be no more than 50% = full for landing when solo for CG purposes.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2 
----- Original Message -----
From: Terrence=20 O'Neill
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 = 2:08=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Automatic = header tank=20 feeder

I had one in my 235/320 and the optical sensors didn't = work,=20 nor did the control unit... and they had no substitute or repairs = available.=20  I finally took it out in put toggle switched in for each Facet = transfer=20 pump to the header, and in the header put in a float switch that = woujld=20 interrupt the Facets when the fuel level in the header was to the = shutoff=20 level desired.  Works fine.=20
Terrence
L235/320 N211AL

On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Novelli wrote:
Try http://www.pi= llarpointelectronics.com/history.html . They were Pillar Point = Avionics.=20 As PPAv they produced a device that do what you want but I think = they=20 discontinued it. I have one in my 320 and works=20 fine.
 
       S=EDlvio=20 Novelli
Lancair 320 -=20 PP-XSN
    +55 (14)=20 3841-2337
 
From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tom=20 Anderson
Sent: quinta-feira, 21 de = janeiro de 2010=20 19:53
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Automatic header = tank=20 feeder
  My 360 is getting ready for some repairs that includes = fixing=20 defective fuel gauges and recalibrating my totalizer. While I=92m at = it, I=92d=20 like to add a switching device that would read the header tank level = and=20 automatically activate the fuel transfer pumps when the header tank = level=20 drops below, say, 4 gallons and then shuts it off at a header tank = reading=20 of about 9 gallons. I saw a 2 =BC=94 display for such a unit on a = friend=92s=20 Lancair, but he couldn=92t recall where he got if from and doubted = they were=20 still available. Does anyone know if they are or what other options = might be=20 available? Thanks for any thoughts on this.   Tom,=20 = N360DB
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