Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #54234
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Do-it-yourself AOA Project
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:43:12 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Paul and All ...
 
You said it well, Paul, you're obviously a stand-up guy ...
People sometimes can't remember the teachings of life but will always remember how the teachings made them feel.
 
Jerry Grimmonpre
RV-8A In Progress
Archive Please
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Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:28 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Do-it-yourself AOA Project

Wolfgang and others on this topic:  I really appreciate the tone when people try to diagnose a problem, suggest fixes and generally add to the knowledge base of the group.   I can't recite any electronic credentials or any aircraft building skills but I do enjoy listening about projects that might or might not work and why.  So, if Wolfgang makes a suggestion that isn't 100% perfect or if a circuit is suggested that might not make it onboard the shuttle then that's ok too.   But, when individuals take it upon themselves to warn listers they have to think twice before answering or shredding someone's opinion it serves no purpose but to shut down discussion.   If the "moderator" is going to permit people to specifically target individuals and demean their character in the eyes of others then that is the list owner's right but it erodes participation by some of us who aren't as skilled or thick-skinned.  Some brute editing or "return to writer" would go a long way to improving the tone in 2010.

If a few folks would simply remove the personal criticisms and focus on the discussions I would be a happier reader.  In a week I'll have forgotten that the LED won't burn up on the breadboard but I won't forget the crappola we had to endure about how people aren't competent or diligent in their writings.  Let's try and slim down personal attacks and promote better discussions.   And, even if the writer was 100% wrong--who cares? Provide facts and move on.   The discussion gets interesting when facts can be disputed and argued and links are provided to support the discussion.  It gets boring when it slides into character assassination and spewing of credentials and past historical triumphs as a means of making your point.

Happy new year everyone,

Paul Miller
N357V L2K

On 2010-01-15, at 1:07 PM, Wolfgang wrote:

I'm not trying to beat my chest and show how much I know. My desire is to bring solutions, not just criticism.
 
By fixing a specific part of a problem, one can not assume approval of the whole, that would be remiss let alone foolish.
 
I was addressing specific criticism of a specific design fault . . . . only.
 
Wolfgang

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