X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com ([209.85.216.190] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.0) with ESMTP id 4062746 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:16:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.190; envelope-from=bobatbmackey@gmail.com Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so10110295pxi.7 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:15:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=AyDrLGJmDB6pahnvFuDSjR0BPBP4P54I4Qho38CJfXUu4dZ2C0xoY5LL2weTr9cESu RYTu+AIFJwoiq+QKTUGb/CTJjbFil/VMvYH0GSXvb71pkt0XGtfNSs4J7cpmKlKqehhI +9Cvy0GkR3IpNjHzwxQNKuLHOVM4dvr3O++z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: bobatbmackey@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.248.20 with SMTP id v20mr16023045rvh.205.1262596542454; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:15:42 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 01:15:41 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 40137bbe5a901a99 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fuel Planning From: bob mackey X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like Gary Casey beat me to the criticism of conventional capacitive fuel-level sensors. Like Gary, in my day job I design and build capacitive sensors. We sell about 100 million units per year. So we've seen failure modes that wouldn't show up in any one person's experience. If you really want to find out what can go wrong with a device, put about a million of them in the field operated by people who have no idea how they work. Some of you are probably helping test our products right now :-) Like Gary, I took apart an "aviation-grade" capacitive fuel gauge and was horrified to see how badly it is engineered. One drop of water in the wrong place looks just like a tank of gas to the "aviation-grade" sensor. Changes to the aircraft bus voltage also affect the fuel level reading. So when someone says they "know" their sensor is accurate, I believe that they knew it was accurate the day they checked the calibration. With the clean fuel that was in the tank at the time. At that temperature. When their voltage regulator was working right. And so on... Like Gary, I know I can build a better fuel level sensor, but I haven't built one for my aircraft, and probably won't get around to it anytime soon. It would distinguish fuel composition as well as level so that water or alcohol would be detectable. It would operate on a few mA or less at any voltage between 3V and 30V, and provide digital serial data output. Data could including warnings if water is detected. If anyone wants a fuel sensor like that, let me know what you think it is worth. The fuel gauge I trust most is the sight tube on my header tank. And even that can give erroneous readings. A clog at the top of the tube could cause it to show full fuel even as the actual level approaches empty. Cross-check with measured fuel consumption through the fuel-flow meter. BTW my 235 carries 33 gal in three tanks. Practically all of it is usable if the wings are exhausted first, then the header. My practice is to climb on the header, then run the wings to exhaustion at high altitude. Any residue in the wings is pumped to the header. The flight continues with some certainty that all of the remaining fuel is in the header and can be used with a complete electrical failure. If the fuel selector valve broke, that would be a serious problem, as that could leave me at 12000' with 11 unusable gallons in the header tank. If that ever happens, I'll be using my glider rating for the rest of the flight. Depending on the flight plan, I take off with at least 8 gallons in the header and enough to get there plus reserves. I do not always take off full. I also fly a Maule M5 that can carry 72 gallons (9 hours without reserves). I rarely fill those tanks, except when tankering fuel into the wilderness. Half full is plenty for most flights with reserves. The forty gallons I'm not usually carrying is good for 240 lbs of payload capacity, or about 200-300 fpm more climb rate. -bob mackey